SDS100/SDS200: Help with DMR 1 Freq System

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Not sure if this had been addressed already. If so I apologize. I have a conventional DMR system with 2 Freqs and 4 Channels. Ch-1 is Freq x slot 1, Ch-2 is Freq x slot 2 (Freq x is CC 5). Ch-3 is Freq y slot 1 and Ch-4 is Freq y slot 2 (Freq y is CC6). My question is how do I program this in ProScan? I can't find a way to do this?
 

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Not sure if this had been addressed already. If so I apologize. I have a conventional DMR system with 2 Freqs and 4 Channels. Ch-1 is Freq x slot 1, Ch-2 is Freq x slot 2 (Freq x is CC 5). Ch-3 is Freq y slot 1 and Ch-4 is Freq y slot 2 (Freq y is CC6). My question is how do I program this in ProScan? I can't find a way to do this?
That's actually a scanner question. ProScan follows the scanner way of programming exactly.
If you know the TGIDs, make a DMR One Freq System and enter the slot # with the TGID and the CC (Color Code) with the site frequency. I know it's a conventional system.
 

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That's actually a scanner question. ProScan follows the scanner way of programming exactly.
If you know the TGIDs, make a DMR One Freq System and enter the slot # with the TGID and the CC (Color Code) with the site frequency. I know it's a conventional system.
AH! Thanks, that's what I was missing!
 

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What scanner are you using?
You set up 2 different one channel trunking systems
F1 SL1 TG1 F1 SL2 TG2 F1 = Frequency 1 SL1 = Slot 1
F2 SL1 TG3 F2 SL2 TG4
Thanks bud! I've done that and still have issues (The use TG1 on every channel). But like ProScan says this is a Radio issue. I'll go over to that SDS forum and see what I can figure out from there.
 

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I'm trying to program a system into my SDS200 but I'm having trouble.
The system uses 2 Frequency's that are DMR 1 Freq's. It has 4 Channels. Freq 1 SL 1 is CH-1, Freq 1 SL 2 is CH-2, Freq 2 SL 1 is CH-3 and Freq 2 SL 2 is CH-4. I have programed the SDS200 so that Freq 1 is CC5, SL 1 is TG-1, SL 2 is TG-2, Freq 2 is CC 6, SL 1 TG-3, SL 2 TG-4. I have added UID's and set Search ID's Off. The radio seems to ignore the CC. TG-1 will show up on both Freqs and all SL's. What am I not doing correctly? I know I'm missing something.
 

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In the SDS Setup 2 1 Frequency Trunking Systems Favorite 1 and Favorite 2 Favorites 1 & 2 can be any number
Setup System 1 as 1 Frequency Trunking
Enter the Frequency
Enter the Color Code
Enter the Talkgroup 1
Enter the Slot 1
Enter the Talkgroup 1
Enter the Slot 2

Setup System 2 as 1 Frequency Trunking
Enter the Frequency
Enter the Color Code
Enter the Talkgroup 1
Enter the Slot 1
Enter the Talkgroup 1
Enter the Slot 2
 

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I'm trying to program a system into my SDS200 but I'm having trouble.
The system uses 2 Frequency's that are DMR 1 Freq's. It has 4 Channels. Freq 1 SL 1 is CH-1, Freq 1 SL 2 is CH-2, Freq 2 SL 1 is CH-3 and Freq 2 SL 2 is CH-4. I have programed the SDS200 so that Freq 1 is CC5, SL 1 is TG-1, SL 2 is TG-2, Freq 2 is CC 6, SL 1 TG-3, SL 2 TG-4. I have added UID's and set Search ID's Off. The radio seems to ignore the CC. TG-1 will show up on both Freqs and all SL's. What am I not doing correctly? I know I'm missing something.
Can you provide a link to the system (or end user) in question?
Also, can you export your Favorites list where this system is entered, and attach file to a post? (You'd export from Sentinel to an *.hpe file. Then, you'd need to compress that hpe file into a zip file. (You can attach a *.zip file to a post, but the *.hpe file extension is not allowed.)

I've seen a somewhat similar pattern, where a given group of frequencies (two or more) are licensed as individual frequencies, not trunked. But often I see the same TGID coming across two or more frequencies, that are not licensed as trunked, but apparently being used as one.
 

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Can you provide a link to the system (or end user) in question?
Also, can you export your Favorites list where this system is entered, and attach file to a post? (You'd export from Sentinel to an *.hpe file. Then, you'd need to compress that hpe file into a zip file. (You can attach a *.zip file to a post, but the *.hpe file extension is not allowed.)

I've seen a somewhat similar pattern, where a given group of frequencies (two or more) are licensed as individual frequencies, not trunked. But often I see the same TGID coming across two or more frequencies, that are not licensed as trunked, but apparently being used as one.
I could but RR on this system is a work in progress. I'm using DSD+ FL with 2 dongles to catch all the traffic and try and figure out what's going on. This is not a trunked system. It is a conventional DMR configured with TG's and using the SL's as a Channel. The each frequency has it's own CC. At least that is what I'm seeing. I'm open to suggestions though!
 

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In the SDS Setup 2 1 Frequency Trunking Systems Favorite 1 and Favorite 2 Favorites 1 & 2 can be any number
Setup System 1 as 1 Frequency Trunking
Enter the Frequency
Enter the Color Code
Enter the Talkgroup 1
Enter the Slot 1
Enter the Talkgroup 1
Enter the Slot 2

Setup System 2 as 1 Frequency Trunking
Enter the Frequency
Enter the Color Code
Enter the Talkgroup 1
Enter the Slot 1
Enter the Talkgroup 1
Enter the Slot 2
Ok, even though it is not showing as a Trunked DMR set it up as one. OK, I'll try that.
 

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In the SDS Setup 2 1 Frequency Trunking Systems Favorite 1 and Favorite 2 Favorites 1 & 2 can be any number
Setup System 1 as 1 Frequency Trunking
Enter the Frequency
Enter the Color Code
Enter the Talkgroup 1
Enter the Slot 1
Enter the Talkgroup 1
Enter the Slot 2

Setup System 2 as 1 Frequency Trunking
Enter the Frequency
Enter the Color Code
Enter the Talkgroup 1
Enter the Slot 1
Enter the Talkgroup 1
Enter the Slot 2
So, looking at my setup, that is what I have already done. I'm trying to isolate each "Channel" to observe. I also have DSD+ FL running side by side.
 

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Sounds somewhat similar to a group of hospitals in my area. They have multiple locations, some licensed for trunking, some not. I see the same TGID used for police at each location. But what I'm not seeing is an actual trunked system scenario. One location, within range of my residence, has several frequencies, and is licensed as "trunked". But, no matter how I set it up, it never does actually appear to be an operating trunked system. Just a collection of frequencies at various locations. The main campus only has one frequency licensed, but I can still see the PD & maintenance TGIDs (for example) that are used elsewhere in their system.
 

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Sounds somewhat similar to a group of hospitals in my area. They have multiple locations, some licensed for trunking, some not. I see the same TGID used for police at each location. But what I'm not seeing is an actual trunked system scenario. One location, within range of my residence, has several frequencies, and is licensed as "trunked". But, no matter how I set it up, it never does actually appear to be an operating trunked system. Just a collection of frequencies at various locations. The main campus only has one frequency licensed, but I can still see the PD & maintenance TGIDs (for example) that are used elsewhere in their system.
Yes, this is a simple system. 1 location, to freqs. Freq 1 cc5 freq 2 cc6. problem 1 SDS200 appears to ignore color code (cc). If the cc is ignored then the Slot (SL) doesn't matter. Based on DSD+ the The channels are set up to that F1 CC5 SL1 = CH1, F1 CC5 SL2 =CH2, F2 CC6 SL1 - CH3, F2 CC6 SL2 =CH4. The have 2 TG's but mainly only use 1 TG. It looks like most UID's are on the Main TG and only a few are on the other. If a radio is assigned to TG1 it will use TG1 on all Channels. So a radio doesn't select TG's it selects channels . I just can't seem to program the SDS200 to scan this system.
 

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What am I not doing correctly? I know I'm missing something.
You have to treat it as conventional channels, one system per channel. You have to set up 4 different OFT systems, one named "Channel 1" using frequency 1 and slot 1 and another OFT named "Channel 2" using frequency 1 and slot 2. Then "Channel 3" using frequency 2 and slot 1 and finally "Channel 4" frequency 2 and slot 2.

Set color code to search and use ID search as it will help the unreliable DMR decode process. Enter TG1 and TG2 in all departments.

Now you will catch all activity on those two frequencies, including private calls radio to radio. Without IDSearch it will only monitor TG calls.

/Ubbe
 
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