Is Holyoke PD's primary frequency 159.210 or has that changed? I've programmed that to my scanner and made sure to set the squelch to P25 digital with the NAC of 023 but transmissions are very sporadic which doesn't really seem accurate for a place like Holyoke, making me think they use another frequency for their primary communications. I'd appreciate any insight on this. Thanks in advance.
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I put them in for a bit, I don't normally pay much attention to them. I did catch one burst of AES encryption but it was a very brief exchange. I'll leave it going through the day.
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Just checked my history log in Proscan, and I'm receiving them fine.
So am I using the right frequency and NAC code? Also wondering if maybe I'm doing a programming error. Can I get some feedback giving me direction?
Freq and NAC is correct.
Intermittent reception could be a number of things. Squelch too high, antenna problem, outside interference, etc. If you get it sometimes, it is likely programmed correctly. Is there a signal strength indicator on your radio? Try sitting on that channel with the squelch backed way down and see if it is better. Does the radio do FM, FMN, FMW? you would want FMNarrow or FM not FMWide.
chris
Intermittent reception could be a number of things. Squelch too high, antenna problem, outside interference, etc. If you get it sometimes, it is likely programmed correctly. Is there a signal strength indicator on your radio? Try sitting on that channel with the squelch backed way down and see if it is better. Does the radio do FM, FMN, FMW? you would want FMNarrow or FM not FMWide.
chris
Thanks for your reply. I appreciate the info you've provided. I'm pretty new to scanning so I'm still trying to get a hang of it all. I've turned down the squelch and will advise if that makes any difference. The antenna I have I bought separately from the scanner itself on Amazon. It's the RH77CK Diamond. Seems to do a lot better than the rubber antenna the scanner came with, but who knows. I suppose it could be an antenna issue. Do you have one you'd recommend?
Holyoke is conventional. P25 Phase II refers to trunking, which they are not. They may be using LSM, however, and typically with LSM coverage, you need to be within the limits of the city for reliable reception. It's been about six months since I was out that way, but I know I could hear them in Chicopee fairly clear. Some scanners have issues with programmed NAC, and run better without it programmed in. Try running it in NAC search mode instead.
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No there are only two
P25 itself for conventional users, plainly called P25 is Phase I
P25 trunking can be either Phase I or Phase II
Since Holyoke is only Conventional, only worry about P25 and not phases.
P25 itself for conventional users, plainly called P25 is Phase I
P25 trunking can be either Phase I or Phase II
Since Holyoke is only Conventional, only worry about P25 and not phases.
Good info. Thanks for the reply. Good to know I don't have to worry about phases of P25 for a conventional frequency. It's not an issue of not being able to hear them clearly, when I do get a transmission It's generally very clear and easy to understand, it's just that transmissions are very sporadic. I've already tried leaving it on NAC search mode, that was actually the first thing I did and then when that wasn't really working is when I decided to program in the exact code hoping that would make a difference. It didn't.
Gotcha. Thanks for the info.
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There are multi mode radios, but I also wonder how often units from one agency need to talk to another.
Boston PD, FD, and EMS radios have an interior channel and I never knew of any instance where it was used.
Boston PD, FD, and EMS radios have an interior channel and I never knew of any instance where it was used.
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And in [almost as many as you Gary] all my years of monitoring, I have rarely heard or heard the need for a
LEO to cross-talk to a FireFighter on their respective channels. Outiside of Dispatch/Command doing this.
But then there are those [ROTFLMAO] who think the maintenance guy needs to talk to the PD who need access to the Housekeeping channels.
One notable Exception was this past Christmas morning, and the FD was dispatched to the "Wrong Street Name"
way across the other side of town, On-Scene LEO [who also does much of the Radio Licensing etc]
had to straighten out the situation by coming up on the FD channel and giving the corrected address location
Also he having been an FD and EMT, provided the hydrant locations and exposure info for situational awareness
for the in-coming apparatus
LEO to cross-talk to a FireFighter on their respective channels. Outiside of Dispatch/Command doing this.
But then there are those [ROTFLMAO] who think the maintenance guy needs to talk to the PD who need access to the Housekeeping channels.
One notable Exception was this past Christmas morning, and the FD was dispatched to the "Wrong Street Name"
way across the other side of town, On-Scene LEO [who also does much of the Radio Licensing etc]
had to straighten out the situation by coming up on the FD channel and giving the corrected address location
Also he having been an FD and EMT, provided the hydrant locations and exposure info for situational awareness
for the in-coming apparatus
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I say let's get rid of severely inflated P25 all together. Originally, it was all about "interop", since this has gone by the wayside, why should my tax dollars continue to fund it while other technologies work just as well if not better for a third of the cost? I say different technologies, but we are getting the the point of sharing the same vocoders as P25 with other digital flavors so why is it so much cheaper? Hmm.. 
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Idk if this was mentioned before but supposedly both Holyoke PD and FD utilize Kenwood nx 5000 series radios so one unit can do both dmr and p25 from the same radio. Imo DMR is worth it for the money and every department would probably go to it if it was funded by the gov and such lol
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