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You need an audio/PTT interface to send and receive data over a radio using a PC.
like an Optocopler and and Plug tot he Radio?!
Everything run over the Laptop Soundcard.
A LAN connection is MOST DEFINITELY a physical connection
Yea and no. Its an Logical Connection not an Physical Connection. IP work over the Air, Glas and Cooper Cable and Light so...
My answer was to the poster that stated you would be in the same predicament by having to run the DB-25 cable.
for what an Parallel Cable? CB Radio have only an Audio Port who have to connect to an Laptop.
you expect everyone to be an expert on Austrian rules and regulations
no?! I say it multible times everything who run over the Audio Port (like ROS and other Sound Based Connection) is legal.
Also 4W AM, FM + 12W SSB and 40 Channel
I would suggest finding a board in countries where modes other than AM are allowed for CB, those people will have more knowledge and probably be much better versed in how you can meet your needs.
No the are ignorant and hive only **** answers.
 

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If we can't help, then back to Austria with you ... may you find your answers there. Bye now. :). 73, n9zas
 

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for what an Parallel Cable? CB Radio have only an Audio Port who have to connect to an Laptop.no?!

You are not reading carefully. The gentleman just prior to me had suggested a solution that involves using a computer's printer port to communicate with the CB radio.

If you cannot run an antenna cable up to the attic, then obviously you could not run any kind of cable.

You are going to need a wireless connection, such as a WiFi hotspot.

In any case, I'm done with this subject. Good luck with your dream project.
 

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WTF...
AGAIN ok? On the Attic is my Internet Connection and the Main "Server Room".
There is one Ethernet Cable who goes trouth the House from the Attic over 3 Switch down to my Apartment.
So... I cant have an physical connection down ok?

using a computer's printer port to communicate with the CB radio.
oke again? I must use the Audio Port on the Radio. What shuld i do with an ****ing Printer Port ?!
I have to connect both Audio.
 

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Well , you could Move? Just saying... :). 73, n9zas
 

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sorry i dont understand what is wrong with that what i say?!

Again and Again and Again....

I have to use ROS so how can I do it with an CB? And which CB is sensitive?
 

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sorry i dont understand what is wrong with that what i say?!

Again and Again and Again....

I have to use ROS so how can I do it with an CB? And which CB is sensitive?
Again, and again ... ASK them in Austria! WE don't have your answers. Sorry. 73, n9 zas
 

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oke again? I must use the Audio Port on the Radio. What shuld i do with an ****ing Printer Port ?!
I have to connect both Audio.
Please forgive my bad Austrian German. I am out of practice!

A post earlier suggested using the printer port to control the radio channels. Obviously you did not read it carefully.

Nobody here knows a lot about this topic. It's against the law here. I wish you luck with your hopes and dreams, but we can not help you.

Bitte verzeihen Sie meine schlechte österreichischen Deutsch. Ich bin aus der Übung!

Ein Post früher vorgeschlagen, den Druckeranschluss unter Verwendung der Funkkanäle zu steuern. Offensichtlich haben Sie es nicht sorgfältig zu lesen.

Niemand hier weiß viel über dieses Thema. Es ist gegen das Gesetz hier. Ich wünsche Ihnen viel Glück mit Ihren Hoffnungen und Träume, aber wir können Ihnen nicht helfen.
 

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sorry i dont understand what is wrong with that what i say?!

Again and Again and Again....

I have to use ROS so how can I do it with an CB? And which CB is sensitive?

I know I'll probably regret this.....

This is how I (and I believe others) are interpreting this thread:

1. You are in Austria, where rules allowing APRS and other Packet are allowed on CB frequencies.

2. Originally it appeared that you were in a house and you wished to place the radio in the attic, but you were unable for some reason to run cables to the attic. You have since clarified that you are in a multi unit occupancy, and the "attic" is where all service comes into the building. In the US, this would probably be referred to as a penthouse or elevator service room.

I would have serious security concerns placing any radio in a common area

3. You have never fully clarified what actual control you want to have over the radio. Is it just TX/RX of the packet data, or are you looking for full control of the radio, such as changing channels, modes and controlling the squelch and clarifier? This question is probably the largest point of confusion.

What type of LAN access do you have in the server room? Can a computer in your apartment see the other computers on the LAN, or is there a firewall in each apartment that prohibits this? If you can plug a computer into the LAN in the server room and see it, the whole issue gets a little easier (security issues aside.)

4. You have provided links to some really questionable sources. You must understand that the video posted by the person using 2 CBs for packet appears pretty cheesy.

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We understand what you are trying to do, but you must understand that we are working on theory, as none of this is allowed where we are. Is it possible? Yes. Have we done it? No. The first way of working through it is to make suggestions and let others give reasons it won't work, then analyze those reasons and determine if they are valid. If they are, workarounds have to be floated in the same manner. It may seem negative, but by answering our questions as completely as possible without getting frustrated, you give us the best chance of devising a solution for you.

If you are looking for data only without control of radio functions beyond TX/RX, and can access the remote computer over the building's LAN I do not see why a TNC wouldn't do exactly what you're looking for. Mic pinouts are readily available and you would probably have to make your own interface cable, but that really isn't that hard. The system will not work without an intermediary device (the TNC.) You cannot just hook a computer directly to the radio. If you are looking for full control, there are links to an interface, and that is where the DB-25 cable becomes necessary.

I understand you're frustrated, but so are we.
 
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Gentlemen, I thank those who tried to help the OP. It's a difficult task helping operators from other countries where the rules allow for different types of operation that we don't necessarily have.

That said, if you cannot help or you don't understand the legalities of operation in other countries, please don't post.

If you are frustrated by the OP's reluctance to take the advice he's been given, bow out and move on.

There's no need to play Moderator or comment any further.

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It's a difficult task helping operators from other countries where the rules allow for different types of operation that we don't necessarily have.
haha talking about illegal things here is normal.
Its ilegal in the US sending various Tones over CB?
I would have serious security concerns placing any radio in a common area
The House are completely owned by my Family so nobody can do anything.
You have never fully clarified what actual control you want to have over the radio.
The most I could get. The best will be full control. I know CB Radio are very limited.
What type of LAN access do you have in the server room?
Full its my Network.
(security issues aside.)
I will buy some new Switch who support "Security Features".
You must understand that the video posted by the person using 2 CBs for packet appears pretty cheesy.
Sadly I found only Information and Posts, Videos in German who explain what ROS is.
Make it simple. ROS are normal Audio Tones Generated my the Software I post some posts before. Everyone can Download it and klick on Play and you will hear what the want to send out over Audio Cable.
So that Audio Cable must connect to the CB Mic / Speaker.
do not see why a TNC wouldn't do exactly what you're looking for
becouse its a Modem! And I dont need an Modem becouse my Pc Audio Card IS the "Modem"!
 

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If your family owns the whole building then why dont you just run coax down to your radio and forget the attic ?
 

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haha talking about illegal things here is normal.
Its ilegal in the US sending various Tones over CB?

Only AM/LSB/USB voice are legal in the US

The House are completely owned by my Family so nobody can do anything.

So you can put an antenna up, and run it into the attic, but you can't just run the cable down the side of the house to where you would have physical control of the radio?

The most I could get. The best will be full control. I know CB Radio are very limited.

Then you would be relegated to using the interface kit referenced earlier in the thread. This is the part where the DB-25 cable comes into play. Obviously you didn't see it before, so here is the link again:

CB-Computer Interface Project

Full its my Network.I will buy some new Switch who support "Security Features".

My comment was in reference to physical security, but since the property is one family, it is moot.

becouse its a Modem! And I dont need an Modem becouse my Pc Audio Card IS the "Modem"!

If you utilize your soundcard in the capacity of a TNC, you also have to program a serial or parallel port to trigger your PTT. You are much better off with an external TNC which is much easier to adjust levels on, and already comes capable of triggering PTT. You saw the boards that the guy with the 2 CBs and laptops had to fabricate-why spend both the time and money (and the lovely cardboard box enclosures he made for them), when you only have to spend the money. I'm willing to bet he spent more than a used TNC goes for when you factor in time.
 

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why dont you just run coax down to your radio and forget the attic ?
My dad would kill me for and its not possible.
you can't just run the cable down the side of the house
Yes there are ~30cm Brick Wall and thick Foam plates. Make a hole in there is not that easy and my dad would kill me for...
where you would have physical control of the radio?
The Radio would be under the Rooftop. There is some m³ space where the Router and Switch are. In the Summer extreme Hot and in the Winter extreme Cold.
Then you would be relegated to using the interface kit referenced earlier in the thread. This is the part where the DB-25 cable comes into play. Obviously you didn't see it before, so here is the link again:
CB Radio have no control port for and the Laptop/ Pc have no Serial or so?! There is no (Ebay) Shop to order and its from Outside of Europe.
you also have to program a serial or parallel port to trigger your PTT.
why not Audio Activated?
You are much better off with an external TNC which is much easier to adjust levels on, and already comes capable of triggering PTT.
oke and how to install the ROS Software on that TNC?! The must run with Windows.
 

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How about a radio in your car ?
ong... i have no driver licence.
Sounds to me like you are doing something way above your head...
?! I will do ordinary ROS with an CB Radio.
I dont understand why is that so complicated.
 

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I know the Uniden Bearcat 980 has been mentioned before. Uniden recently received a variance from the FCC to remotely control it's Bearcat 680/880/980 AM and or SSB transceivers with a remote speaker mic that operates using the DECT 6.0 Digital format in the 1920-1930MHz frequency band. It gives the operator the ability to control the CB from up to 100 meters away.

https://www.uniden.com/automotive/c...d-BC906W/BC906W_Wireless_CB_SpeakerMicrophone

https://www.uniden.com/File Library/FooterNav/Product Information/Owners Manuals/BC906Wom.pdf
 

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DECT is -

Audio codec:
- G.726

Net bit rate:
- 32 kbit/s

Frequency:
- 1880 MHz–1900 MHz in Europe,
- 1900 MHz-1920 MHz in China,
- 1910 MHz-1930 MHz in Latin America
- 1920 MHz–1930 MHz in the US and Canada

Edit: Australia the same as Europe

Carriers:
-10 (1,728 kHz spacing) Europe
- 5 (1,728 kHz spacing) US
 
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