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[Citywide173]

My dad would kill me for and its not possible.

That makes perfect sense. I remember some antenna antics that almost gave my father a stroke.

CB Radio have no control port for and the Laptop/ Pc have no Serial or so?! There is no (Ebay) Shop to order and its from Outside of Europe.

Correct, you would have to open the radio and modify it to connect the adapter. There are USB to serial adapters that will meet this need. This is the ONLY thing on the market for full control of a CB via computer.

why not Audio Activated?

I do not believe there are any CBs in the realm you are looking for with VOX activated PTT. It requires a signal on a separate circuit that is not mic+ or mic-

oke and how to install the ROS Software on that TNC?! The must run with Windows.

The TNC connects BETWEEN your computer and the radio.

 

[Your_account]

The TNC connects BETWEEN your computer and the radio.

So what i read is a TNC IS am Modem. But I dont need a Modem for what?! The ROS Software IS the Sound Output that I need?! So what shuld a modem do?!

Correct, you would have to open the radio and modify it to connect the adapter. There are USB to serial adapters that will meet this need. This is the ONLY thing on the market for full control of a CB via computer.

oke?! In that case I would need someone who can send it me without an Bill. With it would increase the price up to 300% for Tax and other sshhttt (Product Price + Shipping Price = End Price x % Tax = huge amount of Money)

 

[NDRADIONUT]

Hook up an antenna in your room and call it good....

 

[Citywide173]

So what i read is a TNC IS am Modem. But I dont need a Modem for what?! The ROS Software IS the Sound Output that I need?! So what shuld a modem do?!

The ROS software is capable of using your soundcard as the TNC (Terminal Node Controller) but will require additional assignment of a com/serial port to trigger the PTT. It would be much easier if you used your soundcard to route the sound to the TNC and let the TNC do the work of keying the radio for you. PTT triggering is not possible without a voice actuation circuit (VOX) from audio alone.

oke?! In that case I would need someone who can send it me without an Bill. With it would increase the price up to 300% for Tax and other sshhttt (Product Price + Shipping Price = End Price x % Tax = huge amount of Money)

What you are looking to do, if done in the US, would be several hundred to the low thousands of dollars. There is no plug and play option right out of the box, regardless of what the creators of the ROS software tell you. No one is going to do that kind of work and send it to you for free. It seems you have a lot of learning to do about things such as Radio Theory, Basic Electronics, electrical theory, propagation and antenna design before you even think about something on this scale. I know you think it's beneath you, but I would stick with CB in a voice mode for now until I learned a bit more. It's where I, and a lot of others on this board started, and it teaches the basics very well.

 

[KC2GIU]

I know the Uniden Bearcat 980 has been mentioned before. Uniden recently received a variance from the FCC to remotely control it's Bearcat 680/880/980 AM and or SSB transceivers with a remote speaker mic that operates using the DECT 6.0 Digital format in the 1920-1930MHz frequency band. It gives the operator the ability to control the CB from up to 100 meters away.

https://www.uniden.com/automotive/c...d-BC906W/BC906W_Wireless_CB_SpeakerMicrophone

https://www.uniden.com/File Library/FooterNav/Product Information/Owners Manuals/BC906Wom.pdf

Great information to share on this topic. Not sure if he read your posting.

 

[NDRADIONUT]

It doesnt change channels so i suppose this idea is dead in the snow...

 

[Citywide173]

I know the Uniden Bearcat 980 has been mentioned before. Uniden recently received a variance from the FCC to remotely control it's Bearcat 680/880/980 AM and or SSB transceivers with a remote speaker mic that operates using the DECT 6.0 Digital format in the 1920-1930MHz frequency band. It gives the operator the ability to control the CB from up to 100 meters away.

https://www.uniden.com/automotive/c...d-BC906W/BC906W_Wireless_CB_SpeakerMicrophone

https://www.uniden.com/File Library/FooterNav/Product Information/Owners Manuals/BC906Wom.pdf

He stated earlier in the thread that it is illegal in his country because of the Weather band receive.

The mic only allows TX/RX and volume control.

 

[KC2GIU]

Hey guys and gals, before we start picking on this radio OP, let's learn a little about what he is looking to do. I did a search on ROS. WOW, I never knew this even existed. AND it's world wide for 11-meters. Almost as if many of the other countries never gave up the 11-meter band from amateur radio.

Here is the Wiki translated to English.
https://translate.google.com/transl...wiki/ROS_%28Betriebsart%29&edit-text=&act=url

ROS is a telex - operating in the amateur CB radio.
CB

The following frequencies in the 11 meter band are preferred frequencies of ROS in CB :
11 m CEPT Channel Fashion
27.245 MHz channel 25 USB
27.365 MHz channel 36 USB
27.610 MHz (No channel) USB

The frequency 27.610 MHz is outside the typical CB radio range. It is thus not available on a commercial 40- / 80-channel device.

https://rosmodem.wordpress.com/

Some 11m Calling/QSO Frequencies and Good Operating Practices — Foxtrot Lima

https://pskreporter.info/pskmapn.ht...Z&mode=ROS&band=26000000-27999999&hideunrec=1

II DIPLOMA ROS WEEKEND-CB 27 Mhz

Collaborators | ERC – European Ros Club
Shows many countries in Europe and Asia that do ROS. Plenty of clubs to contact and ask questions. Maybe he can ask them???

http://cqdx11.com/3rd-world-day-of-ros-mode-the-world-cb-radio-digital-day/

Not only that, by they have a ROS Field Day event just like regular HAMS do worldwide too. Here is an example of several Amateur CB operators doing ROS.
ERC – European Ros Club | ERC

He is correct. There is little info that tells a person how to set this up using a computer and a radio.
SETUP ROS MODE

I had mentioned prior, he may need a REAL amateur radio that does 10-meters and 11-meters to accomplish this task. For him, he calls it a CB radio.

In the USA and Canada, Amateurs do ROS in the 30-meter band.
"The first ROS connection with a specifically designed licensed amateur radio station in the United States took place on 1 February 2012 ( UTC ) on the 30 meter band to Spain"
FCC Reaffirms Statement on ROS

 

[Citywide173]

Those are predominantly the links he shared earlier in the thread.

He wants to use a commercial CB, not an amateur radio that would be much better suited to his need.

He also wants to remote mount the CB in an attic and control it with a computer over a LAN. full control not just TX/RX annd volume.

On top of this, after being presented with the fact that he would have to make modifications,asked for someone else to do it and send it to him for free

 

[KC2GIU]

Hey, here are a few stations that do ROS with the radios displayed. Notice it's just an average CB radio!

http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/17/56/63/86/56mw0010.jpg

http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/17/56/63/86/19_rf_10.jpg

http://alphaxray.info/wp-content/uploads/P1040285s.jpg

https://rosmodem.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/portada-octubre1.jpg

 

[KC2GIU]

Hot news: ROS digital mode illegal in USA
G4ILO's Blog: Hot news: ROS digital mode illegal in USA

Hot from the K3UK Sked page. "Breaking news from ARRL. They concur that ROS is a spread spectrum mode and as such is not allowed by the FCC on bands below 222 MHz."

I had just been giving ROS another try with my K3 and 40W this time, and managed to complete contacts on 20m with Alabama and Washington State. Neither of these are locations I would expect to work under current conditions using another mode. As soon as the announcement was posted on the site it all went quiet.

My sympathies to my fellow digimode enthusiasts in the USA. It has always struck me as ironic that hams in the land of the free have to operate under more rigid controls than those of us in "socialist" Europe.

 

[KC2GIU]

OK, found someone who gives a little more info on how to get the PC+software setup to the CB radio.

ROS & OPERA mode

It seems he uses a go between software called microHam USB from the computer to the radio.
It has something to do the PTT. This may be the clue to solve how this works.

http://users.telenet.be/ON2AD/ROS-OPERA/images/ROS4.jpg

Ah ha ! Here is how a person does PC to USB to regular CB radio VOX.

Homebrewing

There is no reason not to build your own PTT device. The following shows a very simple (5 minute construction) and inexpensive serial port PTT device.

The breakout board is the FT232RL board ($15) from Spark Fun Electronics. The small relay is an NTE R56-1D.5-6 reed relay ($4) that operates off USB power and provides galvanic isolation between the computer and the radio. To keep from destroying the FTDI chip, the small diode clamps the negative voltage spike each time the current of the relay coil is turned off.

Since everything operates off of USB power, this PTT device requires no external power supply. You can even reduce the parts count to two by using a reed relay that has a built-in clamping diode.

The driver for the FTDI chip and drivers for it are available for both the PPC and Intel base Macintoshes and cocoaModem can use this device by going through cocoaPTT.


http://www.w7ay.net/site/Applications/cocoaModem/MiscInfo/Contents/PTT_files/page43_4.jpg

All the answers tend to be here ...
PTT

 

[KC2GIU]

OK, here is a transcribed interview that talks about a PC+ROS software + soundcard.
Mr. ROS Speaks Out – An Exclusive Interview | DxCoffee - Hamradio Magazine

 

[KC2GIU]

This interview talks about PC+ROSsoftware+soundcard

Mr. ROS Speaks Out – An Exclusive Interview | DxCoffee - Hamradio Magazine

This page has a good deal of info to interface PC to radio PTT.

http://ilgonis.orgfree.com/digiar.htm

 

[KC2GIU]

How to make a PC soundcard into a virtual TNC.

G4ILO's Blog: Making HF APRS MOR robust

More sound card interface
http://www.g4ilo.com/usblink.html

 

[Your_account]

hmm very much to read...

He stated earlier in the thread that it is illegal in his country because of the Weather band receive.

Yes anything outside of the CB Band is not that legal. I want get no trouble with the Police.

so i need time to read.

 

[BBB007]

Hot news: ROS digital mode illegal in USA
G4ILO's Blog: Hot news: ROS digital mode illegal in USA

Hot from the K3UK Sked page. "Breaking news from ARRL. They concur that ROS is a spread spectrum mode and as such is not allowed by the FCC on bands below 222 MHz."[/b]

Thanks for the informative posts on ROS, but I didn't see anything in that 6 year old blog that confirmed or denied legality. Just don't call it "Spread Spectrum" and you should be good to go.

 

[Citywide173]

Thanks for the informative posts on ROS, but I didn't see anything in that 6 year old blog that confirmed or denied legality. Just don't call it "Spread Spectrum" and you should be good to go.

Why does any of this matter? The FCC has very little authority in Austria.

 

[KC2GIU]

Thanks for the informative posts on ROS, but I didn't see anything in that 6 year old blog that confirmed or denied legality. Just don't call it "Spread Spectrum" and you should be good to go.

Thanks for the informative posts on ROS, but I didn't see anything in that 6 year old blog that confirmed or denied legality. Just don't call it "Spread Spectrum" and you should be good to go.

Much of the US Amateur blogs out there never concur if things are legal over here or not as well. It's just a blog.

This page of the IARU shows what countries have for Amateur regulations.
http://www.iaru.org/member-societies.html

For the most part, ROS seems very legal over there. I even visited the Austrian OVSV that is equal to our ARRL. They have plenty of good stuff about ROS looking at their documents via the search function. Spain, Germany, the UK, and others all do ROS as well.

CEPT is another acceptable method for short temp use of your license over there.
http://rsgb.org/main/operating/licensing-novs-visitors/operating-abroad/

Since the ROS stated a few years back, there have been some adjustments to remove the wide spread spectrum providing a means of future ROS into the USA. The FCC was looking towards that, but the ARRL stated to keep out of that realm. Thus, if the ARRL or FCC didn't create it, then it has no business here in the USA.

I find ROS to be interesting in the event of being digital info transmitted via analog and back to the digital realm in the radio spectrum. In someway, it's similar to computer CW out off the radio to the airwaves and back to radio and processed by computer. The thing with ROS is, you can easily make an average analog radio into a workhorse for digital mode. I'm intrigued to think that ROS with no SS can be done in the Amateur bands as well using the basic analog radios out there. Therefore no expensive packet radio equipment is needed. Nor a packet radio capability is needed.

Besides, ROS is software controlled digital data being transmitted. No modem is required either. Thus, the packet 9600 baud speed in the USA is very limiting by today's standards. To transmit the novel of War and Peace via packet would be remarkably slow. ROS has an upper hand looking at it's capabilities.

 

[Your_account]

how about that / what is different between them:
AE 7500 AM/FM/SSB CB Radio
AE 5890 EU,CB Mobil,Multi 4 Watt AM/FM, 12 Watt SSB
MIDLAND 8001 XT AM/FM/SSB CB
President Grant II AM FM SSB
JACKSON II ASC Classic Chrome

Thanks

hmm