Horry County SC

[KA4PHM]

Steve

Not sure what you mean by Enable the Full Database in Favs list. When I select my channels I pick multiple channels and not full database. Frustrared, but I feel its a simple fix. I am downlading via the cable.

 

[KA4PHM]

And my Sentinel software.

 

[k3sls]

Steve

Not sure what you mean by Enable the Full Database in Favs list. When I select my channels I pick multiple channels and not full database. Frustrared, but I feel its a simple fix. I am downlading via the cable.

Normally you would keep the full database disabled as you don't want to scan thousands of frequencies without somehow filtering it to a smaller subset. If you had a GPS connected or specified a zip code…that would reduce the size of the master list to only those frequencies that occur within the location area and range that was set.

But let's forget that for now. Make sure you've used the update function in Sentinel and have the current database downloaded. Then find the system we identified in the earlier post "Horry County". Right click that system and "append" to a favorites list. You will be prompted to use an existing list or create a new one. Go ahead and create a new one with a meaningful name so you can identify it later. Now, check your profile (edit, profile) and make sure that new list is set to download to the scanner. Also make sure all service types are enabled for download. Close the profile, then download to the scanner. Eject the scanner from Windows to ensure the data is written to the scanner. Disconnect the scanner.

The scanner will restart. In the menu, go to fav lists and choose the new list, then confirm you want to use that list. It should load the list and start scanning.

 

[KA4PHM]

Thanks Steve! I will sure try that. It sounds good.

 

[cobra]

A few days ago I was able to hear the new Horry system from about 7 miles west of Georgetown to my destination in Surfside using a mag mount duo band whip on mobile rooftop. The only control channel that I could hear was identified as O8C4h-001, which would lead me to believe that it was site number one on International Drive in Myrtle Beach. Does anyone know for sure if that is correct and shouldn't there be other sites on the air by now? The nearest site to me would be the one in the Burgess community near Surfside, on a 305 foot tower on Starbuck lake Road, which I think is site number 6, according to the map associated with the info posted here in RR. I would think that it would identify with the same WACN, but with a 006 added to it. Can anyone give me any more info on this system's operation?

 

[INDY72]

Only one site with multiple towers. This is an P25 LSM system. Simulcast.

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[k3sls]

Only one site with multiple towers. This is an P25 LSM system. Simulcast.

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This is linked simulcast system with six geographically separate sites. From field testing, I know that at a minimum. sites 4 and 6 are operating. No reason to think the others aren't operating as well.

Details at ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WQYQ236 - HORRY COUNTY GOVERNMENT - Locations Summary

 

[scan18]

Looks like the Burgess tower is part of WNQK719. I'll be interested to know if that tower is up and running, as I'll be heading to that area next month.

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?fccCallsign=WNQK719

 

[k3sls]

Looks like the Burgess tower is part of WNQK719. I'll be interested to know if that tower is up and running, as I'll be heading to that area next month.

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?fccCallsign=WNQK719

The previous system (Motorola Smartnet II) was licensed as WNQK719. The P25 system is licensed as WQYQ236. The RR map is not showing the new license locations properly. I would suggest using the locations from the WQYQ236 license as your current map data. Some confusion may be coming from the fact that both systems use the identical set of frequencies.

 

[scan18]

The previous system (Motorola Smartnet II) was licensed as WNQK719. The P25 system is licensed as WQYQ236. The RR map is not showing the new license locations properly. I would suggest using the locations from the WQYQ236 license as your current map data. Some confusion may be coming from the fact that both systems use the identical set of frequencies.

Ok, thanks for the clarification. I saw all 3 of the licenses listed on the RR page for the new system, so assumed they were all related to that system. Looking forward to seeing what I can pick up when I get there next month.

 

[k3sls]

Ok, thanks for the clarification. I saw all 3 of the licenses listed on the RR page for the new system, so assumed they were all related to that system. Looking forward to seeing what I can pick up when I get there next month.

You'll be fine if you use the 4 control freqs. specified on the new system page
https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=9279
Actually, they haven't even rotated the control freq. since the system went active…so right now you only need 859.7125

 

[K4RMN]

FYI: when the transition starts, SCDPS will be patching old analog and new digital talkgroups through September at least, assuming no delays.

 

[KA4PHM]

Thanks for the heads up! Is that a problem?

 

[K4RMN]

Thanks for the heads up! Is that a problem?

Not sure, a lot of factors enter in such as if the digital or the analog talkgroup is the primary asset in the patch group, how each specific scanner responds to that, and how they deal with the +3 ID shift due to the patch. Will have to wait and see!

 

[troymail]

Finally having a chance to test out the Horry County system on my G4 from our new home in Supply NC. With a RS800 antenna, I'm getting 4 bars and great reception from the ICW area near Holden Beach. NC. I'm only seeing about 1 bar with the stock antenna (and getting out of range messages).

Seems like the reception is better for Horry from here than from the Supply tower of VIPER -- but it's early.

 

[k3sls]

For those of you monitoring the Horry County P25 system…I submitted a FOIA request in April for a list of all TGIDs assigned within the system. The request was denied and the county response directed me to the RRDB to satisfy the request. I submitted an appeal, which was again denied with the same explanation. The appeal also challenged the county to explain why and how RR became the county's official documentation outlet and to produce any relevant paperwork formalizing said arrangement. Again a denial.

So…the TGID listing for this system is completely crowd-sourced as are many others in RRDB. Currently, the listing includes much of the usual items one would expect for most of the county and municipal users, but there are many more in use that aren't listed due to a lack of required usage data. Some TGs are surveillance usage, some are just keyups, some may be encrypted, etc… For each, better info is needed to allow the DBA to post and stay within RR posting guidelines. I should add the DBA has been extremely flexible and cooperative in updating the system.

Want to help? I've been gathering data using discovery mode on several Unidens and booked that data to a spreadsheet along with the published list data. I've also saved that as a PDF for viewing/printing. The PDF should display in your browser using the link below. The spreadsheet will download to your download folder when clicked...you can then open with anything handling xlsx files.

Any confirmed info you can add/correct can be posted to this thread…or better…submit to the DBA for system updating. Remember…we can all benefit!

The links:
http://k3sls.net/HCPSP25.pdf
http://k3sls.net/HCPSP25.xlsx

 

[kittrav]

Wonder how Horry County would respond to multiple requests from Forum readers and others?

By coincidence, within days of K3SLS making his Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, the S.C. Code of Laws Sections 30-4-10, et seq. (the FOIA), was amended, including:
SECTION 4. Section 30 4 100 of the 1976 Code is amended to read:

“Section 30 4 100. (A) A citizen of the State may apply to the circuit court for a declaratory judgment, injunctive relief, or both, to enforce the provisions of this chapter in appropriate cases if the application is made no later than one year after the date of the alleged violation or one year after a public vote in public session, whichever comes later. Upon the filing of the request for declaratory judgment or injunctive relief related to provisions of this chapter, the chief administrative judge of the circuit court must schedule an initial hearing within ten days of the service on all parties. If the hearing court is unable to make a final ruling at the initial hearing, the court shall establish a scheduling order to conclude actions brought pursuant to this chapter within six months of initial filing. The court may extend this time period upon a showing of good cause. The court may order equitable relief as it considers appropriate, and a violation of this chapter must be considered to be an irreparable injury for which no adequate remedy at law exists.

So, any S.C. citizen, who requested the TGID information, and was denied by Horry County, could pay the $175 court filing fee and $25 Sheriff Office service of process fee, and the County would be in front of a judge, having to "explain" their denial, within thirty days..

 

[k3sls]

Wonder how Horry County would respond to multiple requests from Forum readers and others?

By coincidence, within days of K3SLS making his Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, the S.C. Code of Laws Sections 30-4-10, et seq. (the FOIA), was amended, including:
SECTION 4. Section 30 4 100 of the 1976 Code is amended to read:

“Section 30 4 100. (A) A citizen of the State may apply to the circuit court for a declaratory judgment, injunctive relief, or both, to enforce the provisions of this chapter in appropriate cases if the application is made no later than one year after the date of the alleged violation or one year after a public vote in public session, whichever comes later. Upon the filing of the request for declaratory judgment or injunctive relief related to provisions of this chapter, the chief administrative judge of the circuit court must schedule an initial hearing within ten days of the service on all parties. If the hearing court is unable to make a final ruling at the initial hearing, the court shall establish a scheduling order to conclude actions brought pursuant to this chapter within six months of initial filing. The court may extend this time period upon a showing of good cause. The court may order equitable relief as it considers appropriate, and a violation of this chapter must be considered to be an irreparable injury for which no adequate remedy at law exists.

So, any S.C. citizen, who requested the TGID information, and was denied by Horry County, could pay the $175 court filing fee and $25 Sheriff Office service of process fee, and the County would be in front of a judge, having to "explain" their denial, within thirty days..

Yep…and still no assurance they would supply the information in a timely manner if ordered. One article I saw quoted anywhere from one to six months. OTOH, at least they lowered/capped the cost of filing!

 

[jvdet]

FWIW
IMHO
These types of public requests doesn't go over easy for public officials, sure there are laws but be careful what you wish for
Presently in Palm Beach FL the county is soon - slowly up graded to P25 phase 2 , news groups and other citizens wanted to be able to monitor the SO and towns so the county gave them a overall plan - but it will be ALL encrypted, so there you have your request but they ain't given out the encryption keys

 

[k3sls]

FWIW
IMHO
These types of public requests doesn't go over easy for public officials, sure there are laws but be careful what you wish for
Presently in Palm Beach FL the county is soon - slowly up graded to P25 phase 2 , news groups and other citizens wanted to be able to monitor the SO and towns so the county gave them a overall plan - but it will be ALL encrypted, so there you have your request but they ain't given out the encryption keys

Not sure I understand the purpose of your post. Phase II isn't needed for encryption. And if they were going to encrypt, it would serve no purpose to give the key to outsiders.

Further, I seriously doubt making an FOIA request would trigger a move to encryption. That is usually decided well in advance of moving to an encryption capable system…and in fact is often a stated reason to move to a new system.

No intention here to start a discussion as to justification (or not) of encryption…just pointing out that an FOIA request is something totally unrelated and citizens shouldn't be fearful of exercising their rights.