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So, I’ve got an XG100P. I recently acquired the black housing. (I also have a green one from NLT as a spare).

Anyone have any solid info about how many made it into the wild?

Pics of my (now) all black XG100 for tax.

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It was originally thought about 25 green cases existed from NLT but there seemed to be a lot more black ones. I saw the green cases on NLTs site for around $125 and similar for the black ones until people bought them out and jacked the prices way up on ebay.
 

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They are nothing special, NLT has a load of former parts from the MA/com Harris PS facility in Lynchburg.
 

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It was originally thought about 25 green cases existed from NLT but there seemed to be a lot more black ones. I saw the green cases on NLTs site for around $125 and similar for the black ones until people bought them out and jacked the prices way up on ebay.
The green ones are $200 on NLT now. They don’t even list black anymore.
 

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Black one is rare, guy on Ebay wants $600 for one lol.
They are FED housings per what I was told.
 

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Yeah I think the black is actually the more rare but also less desirable still having that bright yellow PTT. The green one did number in the 20's and the price doubled after I bought 10 of them. Then after being told there were no more suddenly another box of them materialized. They are either very unorganized at NLT or they were trying to artificially create demand. I suspect both after being shorted on a few $1 parts then literally being accused of trying to scam them. For a dollar.
 

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LOL, I had to look at mine to remember what color it was (grey), its the radio that makes these what they are.
A real shame NLT corners the market for parts and jack the prices into orbit.
 

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LOL, I had to look at mine to remember what color it was (grey), its the radio that makes these what they are.
A real shame NLT corners the market for parts and jack the prices into orbit.
It seems the XG100P line either gets a cult-following or some serious hate. Maybe I just have had good luck, but mine seems to be chugging along just fine. The new housing fixed my button issues, and it’s been TX/RX on everything I need without any issues. Audio quality isn’t quite as good as some of the other stuff I’ve used over the years, but on that same note, this radio is probably close to 10 years old at this point. Mine smelled straight up like a fire, so I’m guessing it was pulled from service from a department that almost certainly was beating the crud out of it daily.
 

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It seems the XG100P line either gets a cult-following or some serious hate. Maybe I just have had good luck, but mine seems to be chugging along just fine. The new housing fixed my button issues, and it’s been TX/RX on everything I need without any issues. Audio quality isn’t quite as good as some of the other stuff I’ve used over the years, but on that same note, this radio is probably close to 10 years old at this point. Mine smelled straight up like a fire, so I’m guessing it was pulled from service from a department that almost certainly was beating the crud out of it daily.
There is nothing else that can do what an XG-100P can do unless you spend 5X or more $$. Several of my 100Ps were $400 or less and if they break I'll just replace them with another $400 or less XG-100P. If you compare to an APX8000, if the 8000 breaks the price to fix it would exceed what you can buy two or more XG-100Ps for. Let that sink in.
 

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There is nothing else that can do what an XG-100P can do unless you spend 5X or more $$. Several of my 100Ps were $400 or less and if they break I'll just replace them with another $400 or less XG-100P. If you compare to an APX8000, if the 8000 breaks the price to fix it would exceed what you can buy two or more XG-100Ps for. Let that sink in.
The XL200P would be the only other radio that would be okay, sub $2k if its featured well then I would go for that. But Ive heard and seen that the front speakers tend do just die.
 

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The XL200P would be the only other radio that would be okay, sub $2k if its featured well then I would go for that. But Ive heard and seen that the front speakers tend do just die.
I work on them professionally and we haven't had many issues with the speakers, but good lord do the volume knob potentiometers like to break.
 

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I work on them professionally and we haven't had many issues with the speakers, but good lord do the volume knob potentiometers like to break.
I have heard the XL200s are great units, but I have also seen a lot of people replacing the housings for "tinny" sounding speakers. I wonder if there was a bad run of them at some point?
 

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I have heard the XL200s are great units, but I have also seen a lot of people replacing the housings for "tinny" sounding speakers. I wonder if there was a bad run of them at some point?
Could be the case? I haven't seen too many issues with XL200 speakers, but then again the overwhelming majority of xl200 users in my neck of the woods use speaker mics
 

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It seems the XG100P line either gets a cult-following or some serious hate. Maybe I just have had good luck, but mine seems to be chugging along just fine. The new housing fixed my button issues, and it’s been TX/RX on everything I need without any issues. Audio quality isn’t quite as good as some of the other stuff I’ve used over the years, but on that same note, this radio is probably close to 10 years old at this point. Mine smelled straight up like a fire, so I’m guessing it was pulled from service from a department that almost certainly was beating the crud out of it daily.
Here is the great part of Harris that I love. A radio that was built around the same time as the XTL still functions just as good if not better in todays trunking p2 stuff, Try that with a XTL .......
 

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We dumped them because of size/weight, and the fact we had to run legacy RPM along RPM2 for our newer radios. I'm trying to reduce the number of software and hardware/accessory "ecosystems" that we have to support.
 

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We dumped them because of size/weight, and the fact we had to run legacy RPM along RPM2 for our newer radios. I'm trying to reduce the number of software and hardware/accessory "ecosystems" that we have to support.
I can see that being an issue, especially the software. I’m not sure why Harris didn’t make RPM2 backwards compatible across the entire line. The XG100M is RPM/RPM2 compatible.
 

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We dumped them because of size/weight, and the fact we had to run legacy RPM along RPM2 for our newer radios. I'm trying to reduce the number of software and hardware/accessory "ecosystems" that we have to
I don't know how far back you are talking , but I use RPM2 on my M7300s and my 100Ms. size and weight doesn't matter to me (they weight as much as an XTL brick ) I'm not carrying them around. they are in the back of the vehicle out of the way.
 

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Here is the great part of Harris that I love. A radio that was built around the same time as the XTL still functions just as good if not better in todays trunking p2 stuff, Try that with a XTL .......

If you truly meant XTL then you are comparing apples/oranges. XTLs are Motorola Mobile radios. Did you mean XTS portable radios? Because the XTS 2500/5000 was (and is) a great radio that can be found at a great price and the XTS line of radios still handles Phase 1 FDMA very well.
To each their own!
 
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