Hunters Ambulance

[900mhz]

CH ID	Frequency	Color Code
110	451.375	3
172	452.150	3
228	452.850	3
1081	463.5125c	3

I tried to use the Channel ID's as the LCN's, but when I did, I received nothing. By leaving the LCN's as 0 (zero), reception returned. I tried to use the analyze/LCN finder function on my SDS200, but it would stop after receiving the LCN for the control channel (463.5125). According to the LCN finder, that control channel has a LCN of zero. Weird.

 

[nhfdcadet]

Can I program this in a radio shack?

 

[900mhz]

Can I program this in a radio shack?

you can try it. I programmed up my SDS200 with those 4 frequencies starting with frequencies lowest to highest with the Color Code 3 for all frequencies. I did set the LCN's at 0 (zero) for all 4. Give it a shot.

 

[cg]

If I program them in order, I get traffic, however all I get is what is on the first frequency programmed in. Since I usually program with CC first, that might help explain why I got nothing previously. When I watch on DSDPlus and ProScan at the same time, I can verify it is only picking up on the lowest frequency in the lineup.
When I put the control channel first in line, I would see the DMRT3, full strength signal, and the SLOT would change to match traffic on the system. The frequency does not change to follow the system but I believe the radio is tracking.
When I have the 451.375 voice channel first, there is nothing showing for mode or slot until there is activity on either of that frequency's slots. Once that happens, the strength is full, DMRT3 shows as mode, TGID info is shown, and voice is heard.

chris

 

[900mhz]

I am seeing the same thing, confirmed in my ProScan logs. I am wondering if there is something missing. I experienced the same issues with the control channel listed first. Every five seconds or so, I do see the frequency on the display briefly move to the control channel frequency, then shift back quickly to the first listed frequency (451.375). My question lies with the LCN's. Are they necessary to properly track this system?

 

[Reconrider]

I am seeing the same thing, confirmed in my ProScan logs. I am wondering if there is something missing. I experienced the same issues with the control channel listed first. Every five seconds or so, I do see the frequency on the display briefly move to the control channel frequency, then shift back quickly to the first listed frequency (451.375). My question lies with the LCN's. Are they necessary to properly track this system?

I've never had the LCNs in my sds100. I have them as all 0s so it's in a "search" mode. I'm running the analyzer for avon for LCNs for ya. Taking a little while, but I'll have it for ya - just not sure when haha.

 

[cg]

I ran LCN Finder for a week each on the very busy Bolton & Avon sites, no luck.

 

[Reconrider]

I ran LCN Finder for a week each on the very busy Bolton & Avon sites, no luck.

Ya I'm kind of finding the LCN finder useless. The site is active as heck on dsd and the sds100, but yet not getting any "finds"

https://prnt.sc/260sm1m

 

[Dickie_10]

From DSDPlus, here are the details of the Marcus TIII Durham site (L13-1.4). The LSN of the control channel and all the LCNs were determined using the DMR TIII LCN Frequency Calculator.

Frequency    LSN          LCN
451.0875     177/178       88   CC
461.4125     1829/1830    914 
461.4875     1841/1842    920
463.3375     2137/2138   1068

 

[55engine]

Hunters frequency 461.7875 Is now DMR color code 6 put in as a single trunk with that frequency the talk group come up 231 Just learned this yesterday

 

[pro106import]

Hunters frequency 461.7875 Is now DMR color code 6 put in as a single trunk with that frequency the talk group come up 231 Just learned this yesterday

They are on this system....
Marcus Spectrum Holdings LLC - Scan New England Wiki

 

[55engine]

Yes but the The frequency is licensed is 2023 or 2024 That frequency now comes up as color code 6 DMR

 

[pro106import]

Yes but the The frequency is licensed is 2023 or 2024 That frequency now comes up as color code 6 DMR

Licenses are not always updated.

SysID 13, Site 1.7 DMR Tier III, Trumbull?, CT
Frequency	Ch #	Color Code	Control Channel
464.4125	2309​	C06	Y
461.475	1839​	C06
461.7875	1889​	C06
6689673	Hunters Ambulance
6689675	Hunters Ambulance
6689676	Hunters EMS Disp
6689677	Hunters Ambulance
6689678	Hunters Chaircar
6689685	HUNTERS MIDDLETOWN
9961973	HUNTERS MERIDEN

 

[55engine]

So are you telling me that I can sit in Middletown and I could pick up the Trumbull frequency I was in Middletown yesterday when this was coming up I did see the license it did say hunters and I did see for Marcus communication

 

[pro106import]

So are you telling me that I can sit in Middletown and I could pick up the Trumbo frequency I was in Middletown yesterday when this was coming up

It is a DMR tier III system, so yes they could come up on any of the sites on the system. Look at the DMR section of the link I put up. It has all of the sites.
Yes you heard a Trumbull freq. in Middletown. Same Color Code 6. Part of Site 1.7 of the system. I hear every site in the system from my location. Marcus doesn't mess around

 

[55engine]

All right good information thank you very much I have some work to do on my radio

 

[jperuta]

It is a DMR tier III system, so yes they could come up on any of the sites on the system. Look at the DMR section of the link I put up. It has all of the sites.
Yes you heard a Trumbull freq. in Middletown. Same Color Code 6. Part of Site 1.7 of the system. I hear every site in the system from my location. Marcus doesn't mess around

Bruce does a good job with all the systems he builds

 

[cg]

Are you hearing any analog Hunters traffic on that? are you hearing any other Marcus TierIII users? (there are some very busy bus & chair car users as well as wreckers)
If you are seeing a TGID of 231, that is not the Marcus TIII system. DCC6 matches though.

chris

 

[Dickie_10]

461.7875 in Middletown appears to be a low power, conventional DMR (w/ DCC6) patch or rebroadcast of the Hunter's talkgroup (6689676) from the TIII system. I'm only hearing Hunter's traffic with a single radio id (12) and talkgroup (231). Edit - I'm receiving no signal at all from the Trumbull TIII site CC (464.4125) at my location.

 

[cg]

Good catch