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I went through the maintenance manual (version 14221-1200-5000, Rev. B) and the list of error codes starts on page 102. In the last actual terminal message that came into Putty was error code 509 "Increased Personality files are not present". I found it in the category "Personality Interface Fatal System Error Codes" starting on the bottom of page 104 and the full error code is 0x5509.

So far I have failed at getting it to respond again in the same way as in that Putty screenshot. Don't know which blindly sent command triggered the response as I was desperately trying everything in the command list. ;-)
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Usually, these errors are old and when you power cycle the radio, it undoes the defragmenting then removes old data. A few power cycles and the errors are gone.
 

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Has anyone ever seen this error on the serial port before?

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I did try resetting the Flash memory but that didn't solve the issue.
This issue seems to be preventing me from updating the TCXO's AFC value to re-center the radio's frequency.

Suggestions?
Almost always. It doesn't mean much when you continue with Putty. Adjusting the TCXO is documented in a TSM
 

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Writing some notes about recovering from an incomplete programming attempt: My desktop computer has two serial comm ports so port 2 is connected to the XG100 on the left and port 1 to the radio on the right. I updated my mission plan and dropped it through port 1. The radio looks good. Powered down that radio and powered up the one on the left. It was working fine (hint) and booted normally. Set up RPM2 for that radio and tried programming through Serial port 2. Got MBAP 13 on the CH721 display. Tried switching to using comms port 1, but no luck. Been trying to remember lots of programming hints, tried JUMP on the maintenance APP. Get "radio not in program mode. Switched to a terminal emulator. Entered ATZ, momentarily get LOST MRU on the CH-721 display but the terminal emulator readout follows up with what looks like a normal list. Entered ATZ 15 and got it to exit MBAP 13 and reboot. (Remember to exit the Terminal emulator as it ties up the comms port.) Then successfully dropped the mission plan into the second radio. End of notes.
 

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No its better than a Saturday. Saturday is when all the stupid working people clog the grocery stores and retirees can go anytime during the week. Now all you working people get back to it and keep that SS alive!
Retirees know that a Saturday that is a calendar Saturday or Sunday are the ones to avoid. The Saturdays that are Monday through Friday are best utilized after 9 AM and before 3PM, lol.
 

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No its better than a Saturday. Saturday is when all the stupid working people clog the grocery stores and retirees can go anytime during the week. Now all you working people get back to it and keep that SS alive!
I emailed you the CH-721 manual that you thought you had
 

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Speaking of 721 control heads: other than the button arrangements, can System and Scan front panels be swapped freely? I had a CU23218-0002 remote mount head on which the Scan style front panel controls were damaged so I took that CU23218-0001 front panel off and cannibalized it for parts. If I came up with a CU23218-0003 System style front panel (configured for local radio mounting) would that freely integrate with the remaining body/electronics of the CU23218-0002 remote mount head? I believe I could remove the local control rear housing off of the new System head and then integrate that System front panel to the CU23218-0002 remote head rear housing followed by updating the firmware.

Or is this all wishful thinking?
 
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Speaking of 721 control heads: other than the button arrangements, can System and Scan front panels be swapped freely? I had a CU23218-0002 remote mount head on which the Scan style front panel controls were damaged so I took that CU23218-0001 front panel off and cannibalized it for parts. If I came up with a CU23218-0003 System style front panel (configured for local radio mounting) would that freely integrate with the remaining body/electronics of the CU23218-0002 remote mount head? I believe I could remove the local control rear housing off of the new System head and then integrate that System front panel to the CU23218-0002 remote head rear housing followed by updating the firmware.

Or is this all wishful thinking?
I've used both system and scan heads on my XG-100Ms both front mount and remote mount. Some with old firmware and some after upgrading head firmware and they all work fine.
 

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I've used both system and scan heads on my XG-100Ms both front mount and remote mount. Some with old firmware and some after upgrading head firmware and they all work fine.
I've done that but what I'm asking about involves disassembling heads and swapping parts
 

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I've read through the Harris maintenance manual MM-008918-001 for the 721 control heads and found the following in section 3.2.2

".... The Rear Housing Assembly shown on page 73 is used in remote-control applications (i.e., trunkmount
radio installations). It is a common assembly for both the CH-721 Scan and the CH-721
System model control heads. It mates with the Front Cover Assembly to form a complete control
head. "

I interpret that as saying that either a Scan or System front panel assembly will mate with rear housing. Other than telling the front panel it is in a remote configuration there is nothing else to affect compatibility regardless of the front panel being a Scan or System model.
 

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I've read through the Harris maintenance manual MM-008918-001 for the 721 control heads and found the following in section 3.2.2

".... The Rear Housing Assembly shown on page 73 is used in remote-control applications (i.e., trunkmount
radio installations). It is a common assembly for both the CH-721 Scan and the CH-721
System model control heads. It mates with the Front Cover Assembly to form a complete control
head. "

I interpret that as saying that either a Scan or System front panel assembly will mate with rear housing. Other than telling the front panel it is in a remote configuration there is nothing else to affect compatibility regardless of the front panel being a Scan or System model.
Aah, that's what your asking. I have swapped scan and system heads in the same clamshell housing for remote use and that works fine.
 

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I've used both system and scan heads on my XG-100Ms both front mount and remote mount. Some with old firmware and some after upgrading head firmware and they all work fine.
Whats really wacky is I have had a System dash model on the bench and for fun I put the CH731 HHCH on it. Talk about goofy, but it worked. It seems the XG series doesnt care what type of head(s) is/are on it.
 

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Whats really wacky is I have had a System dash model on the bench and for fun I put the CH731 HHCH on it. Talk about goofy, but it worked. It seems the XG series doesnt care what type of head(s) is/are on it.
I do the same, all my 100Ms have front mount system heads attached, even the one under the seat of my truck. Plug in a HHCH and it just works. Try that with a Bloatarola. I've even done a front mount system head, remote HHCH and an SP721 desktop remote head at the same time.
 

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I wish the 8500 could have dual head with one being a dash mount. The TIB is on the back so it seems like it could be made to function. I have a few departments that have a need for dual head with one being the dash head.
 

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I wish the 8500 could have dual head with one being a dash mount. The TIB is on the back so it seems like it could be made to function. I have a few departments that have a need for dual head with one being the dash head.
I have an APX8500 with a lot of features and after using XG-100Ms for a few years I really need to dump the APX as the Harris does more and just as good if not better than the APX plus the Harris has VHF lo band receiver/exciter. I can sell the APX for enough to buy nearly 10 XG-100Ms.
 
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