iDEN Standard

[Randmaster]

Hello, all.

Okay, so I have noticed that a lot of databases have some frequencies listed under iDEN Standard (SouthernLinc). I know that they cannot be scanned in any way.

If they can't be scanned, then why are they there, just like encrypted systems and D-STAR amateur radio? Someone please help me understand this.

 

[N_Jay]

Why not?

 

[Jay911]

They're there so that people who stumble across the signal on that frequency can look it up on RR and say "Oh, that's what I heard". Mainly.

 

[Randmaster]

Yeah, that does make sense...

Probably a stupid question to begin with, eh?

 

[Jay911]

Nah, I asked it when I first saw it in the DB myself.

 

[DaveH]

Got to agree with the OP, at least as far as the iDEN system I saw
listed in Alberta...other than a curiousity, mostly usless clutter in DB
as nobody (except a few with expensive service monitors) can monitor
or even track user activtity. Looks like it was lifted from TAFL database
and probably not verified (as the saying goes, if I were a betting person...).

Dave

 

[Jay911]

Actually, the Alberta stuff is largely verified, by me, when I was doing DB admin duty.

 

[DaveH]

OK J, I guess I am wrong about verification in this case (and how it was
verified might be outside the scope of this thread), but still scratching my
head a bit. No offense towards your efforts, I just don't get it.

There is a ton(ne) of Telus iDEN site data that could be submitted and
yes maybe verified some way, but would you want to be flooded by it?
Why stop at just one area?

Believe me I would not impose that on RR; things seem busy enough.

851-866 around here is thick with iDEN signals. It's impossible to do
a conventional scan of this band in anything other than small chunks
of spectrum, with search lockout enabled, and even so it is difficult.

What would be somewhat useful is (from some legit source, if anyone
should have it) a list users, even partial, such that people would know
who not to be expected to be found on other listenable systems.

Meantime, I have seen systems submitted with unknown system type
and no known control channels (perhaps some are LTR). There are
listenable systems in my area (outside my normal reception range)
for which not a single TG has been submitted in 5-10 years' operation.
I'm baffled as to spending time on (mostly) unlistenable systems.

Dave

 

[APTN]

iDEN

They're there so that people who stumble across the signal on that frequency can look it up on RR and say "Oh, that's what I heard". Mainly.

I have tuned a scanner to a known iDEN frequency just to see what would happen. I heard what sounded like data being broadcast. (like what would be heard on a trunking control channel)

 

[rvictor]

What would be somewhat useful is (from some legit source, if anyone
should have it) a list users, even partial, such that people would know who not to be expected to be found on other listenable systems.

Sounds like a good reason to list them in the database.

Also there may be some that do traffic analysis where just the volume of traffic at a particular time may have significance even though you can't understand what's being communicated.

Dick