IN Children's Museum

[INDY72]

Looks like they are completely redoing their radio lineup. Will put in the new stuff and start monitoring to see what it looks like once its done.

 

[cubn]

What changes are you seeing? Channel lineup, tones, switch to DMR?

I did a lot of research pre-Covid recording the channels to get channel description and order. Even went to the parking deck to identify the input frequencies.

Not sure I'll be able to research too much now that I work predominantly from home. Will keep an eye on it...thanks for letting us know!

 

[usswood]

What changes are you seeing? Channel lineup, tones, switch to DMR?

License update:
0009808988 - CHILDRENS MUSEUM OF INDIANAPOLIS IG WPPE266 Mod
ACTIVITIES IN AND AROUND THE MUSEUM
3000 N MERIDIAN ST, INDIANAPOLIS, IN MARION County
...Delete freqs: 152.435, 152.465, 151.715, 151.775, 151.865 FB2
...Delete freqs: 8 MO
...Delete freq: 157.695 FX1
...Add freqs: 151.625, 151.925, 152.375, 153.1475, 153.6725, 154.505 FB2 11K2F3E, 4K00F3E
...Add freqs: 157.6425, 158.3625, 159.6225, 159.8325, 159.915, 160.2075 MO 50/75w 11K2F3E, 4K00F3E

 

[INDY72]

License update:
0009808988 - CHILDRENS MUSEUM OF INDIANAPOLIS IG WPPE266 Mod
ACTIVITIES IN AND AROUND THE MUSEUM
3000 N MERIDIAN ST, INDIANAPOLIS, IN MARION County
...Delete freqs: 152.435, 152.465, 151.715, 151.775, 151.865 FB2
...Delete freqs: 8 MO
...Delete freq: 157.695 FX1
...Add freqs: 151.625, 151.925, 152.375, 153.1475, 153.6725, 154.505 FB2 11K2F3E, 4K00F3E
...Add freqs: 157.6425, 158.3625, 159.6225, 159.8325, 159.915, 160.2075 MO 50/75w 11K2F3E, 4K00F3E

Yup complete new frequency set, so this means a whole new data search for the new line up, whether its going to NXDN, or staying analog, new line up with them etc... As I live just a few blocks from the ICM I can get them crystal clear, so can at least get started with monitoring and logging.

 

[INDY72]

Still using the current set up right now, will check daily, as no idea when they will do the upgrade.

 

[cubn]

What would be the reason to apply for new frequencies and cancel all the old ones? Couldn't they just modify the existing license if they wanted to go NXDN?

Also, I'm surprised 151.625 is licensed as a repeater as it is an itinerant freq.

 

[INDY72]

What would be the reason to apply for new frequencies and cancel all the old ones? Couldn't they just modify the existing license if they wanted to go NXDN?

Also, I'm surprised 151.625 is licensed as a repeater as it is an itinerant freq.

New IT and Radio folks in charge, new contracts with new company, slick sales reps????? I wonder who has that contract anyway? JES & Sons? Whatever the case, they are replacing it all. As for the itinerant going to a repeater, I have seen this done before in an area where there would be no co chan interference. And since it has been coordinated, and no flagging with FCC thus far, it must be ok with them lol. Its about as weird as IU Health still using the LTR system at IU Methodist and IU Riley. When that lic expired over ten years ago now when they have a robust IP Site Connect DMR network with it linked to the CAP+ IU North system which replaced that site of the LTR.

 

[cubn]

Any update? I tried to monitor the old and new freqs yesterday before the museum closed but heard nothing (normally I could just barely pick them up from home).

I saw the license was updated to cancel the old frequencies while retaining the new frequencies.

 

[cubn]

Any update? I tried to monitor the old and new freqs yesterday before the museum closed but heard nothing (normally I could just barely pick them up from home).

I saw the license was updated to cancel the old frequencies while retaining the new frequencies.

Heard them on Friday using their old channels.

 

[INDY72]

Expect any changes within a short time now that the lic is officially changed.

 

[cubn]

I guess they changed their mind:

FCC Callsign WPPE266 (CHILDRENS MUSEUM OF INDIANAPOLIS)

FCC Callsign WPPE266 (CHILDRENS MUSEUM OF INDIANAPOLIS)

www.radioreference.com

 

[west-pac]

I guess they changed their mind:

FCC Callsign WPPE266 (CHILDRENS MUSEUM OF INDIANAPOLIS)

FCC Callsign WPPE266 (CHILDRENS MUSEUM OF INDIANAPOLIS)

www.radioreference.com

Yea, the FCC changed their mind after not receiving a construction notice, and then terminated the license.

 

[cubn]

I saw in Jerry's FCC Midwest Grants the Children's Museum applied for another new license.

Maybe now they are actually switching to NXDN?

IN Grants 1/05/26


CHILDRENS MUSEUM OF INDIANAPOLIS
3000 N MERIDIAN ST
INDIANAPOLIS IN 46206
ULS FCC View

Callsign: WSLA474
Radio Service: IG-Industrial/Business Pool, Conventional

APPLICANT WILL BE USING THE RADIO SYSTEM FOR THE MANAGING OF ACTIVITIE
S IN AND AROUND THE MUSEUM.

Action: ISSUED


Area of Operation
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1 FIXED 394837.2N 086926.0W INDIANAPOLIS MARION IN
2 MOBILE 40.0 KMRA around site

Pwr ERP # of # of (A)nalog
Ref Class Freq Out Out Units Pagers (D)igital (X)Unknwn
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 FB2 151.65500 050 075 1 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
1 FB2 151.92500 050 075 1 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
1 FB2 152.37500 050 075 1 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
1 FB2 153.14750 050 075 1 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
1 FB2 153.67250 050 075 1 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 157.64250 005 005 200 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 158.36250 005 005 200 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 159.62250 005 005 200 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 159.83250 005 005 200 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 159.91500 005 005 200 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 160.20750 005 005 200 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)

 

[AK9R]

160.2075? Isn't that between two railroad frequencies? 160.2000 is AAR 006 and 160.2150 is AAR 007.

 

[INDY72]

Hmmm. Well if it interferes when CSX goes to the snfm nxdn channel use, they will get a spanking... But until that day the FCC doesn't care since they did approve it. *Cues that song: "Things the Make You Go HMMM"*

 

[cubn]

Seems they just went to NXDN on their existing repeaters..

Today I heard...

152.435 RAN 6 TG 1 - security
152.465 RAN 6 TG 1 - maintenance

 

[INDY72]

No wonder I didn't hear anything on the freqs with the analog and tones lol. Time to reprogram lol. I bet they do switch to the new freqs soon though.

 

[cubn]

They have another license issued last week.

CHILDRENS MUSEUM OF INDIANAPOLIS
INDIANAPOLIS IN 46206
ULS FCC View

Callsign: WSLE409
Radio Service: IG-Industrial/Business Pool, Conventional

APPLICANT WILL BE USING THE RADIO SYSTEM FOR THE MANAGING OF ACTIVITIE
S IN AND AROUND THE MUSEUM.

Action: ISSUED


Area of Operation
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 FIXED 394837.2N 086926.0W INDIANAPOLIS MARION IN
2 MOBILE 40.0 KMRA around site

Pwr ERP # of # of (A)nalog
Ref Class Freq Out Out Units Pagers (D)igital (X)Unknwn
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1 FB2 151.71500 050 100 1 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
1 FB2 151.77500 050 100 1 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
1 FB2 151.86500 050 100 1 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
1 FB2 152.43500 050 100 1 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
1 FB2 152.46500 050 100 1 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
1 FB2 154.50500 050 100 1 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 151.71500 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 151.77500 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 151.86500 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 152.43500 005 005 250 0 4K00F1E (D),11K2F3E (A)
2 MO 152.46500 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 157.69500 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 157.72500 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 158.34000 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 159.52500 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 159.66000 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 159.76500 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 159.87000 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 160.20750 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D),11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)
2 MO 160.20750 005 005 250 0 11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D),11K2F3E (A),4K00F1E (D)

 

[INDY72]

Okay.... So they can actually go to 12 freqs now if they want. Not sure they would need that much?

 

[west-pac]

They are 6 repeater freq pairs. Repeater output are the low freqs; repeater input are the high freqs. Look at the "unit" count. All the low freqs are 1 transmitter.