no but there are ways to do it with mobiles (multi RF decks). You can also just keep the old radios as well in vehicles. Plenty of agencies do that as well.
Inyo County Moving to Mobile Relay Associates NEXEDGE System?
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no but there are ways to do it with mobiles (multi RF decks). You can also just keep the old radios as well in vehicles. Plenty of agencies do that as well.
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Well let’s hope Kenwood JVC one day does come out with a dual band NXDN radio
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Tri-band is supposed to be in the works. VHF-UHF-7/800.
I’m surprised they aren’t more common. The technology exist (we see it all over the armature side of radio) and there seems to be a need for it with the push for more and more interoperability between agencies.
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Yeah, they saw the light. Motorola and Harris have them. Tait has one coming out next year.
EF Johnson has had dual band radios for a while, but I think they are only VHF + 7/800 -or- UHF + 7/800.
Yes, the Inyo SO might be able to flip a switch, but all the other agencies in two counties will not be able to do such. Think of the volunteer fire departments who don't have much funding as it is. Think about two state agencies who don't have near the money they need, state parks and fish and wildlife. Think about the federal land management agencies that can hardly show up for anything after 25 plus years of cuts. As for scanners not every volunteer firefighter and SAR team member can afford, nor figure out those new scanners with all their liabilities (too much info on the screen, proprietary batteries, shorter battery life, programming nightmares . . . . . . . . .
I have one of those newer scanners, the BCD325P2 and it doesn't well support anything. I has major flaws in design and isn't at all intuitive. Who were the idiots that thought we would be OK with only two AA batteries with sometimes three of fewer hours of use on them. The monstrosities on the SDS-100 are so large calling the radio portable is a bit of a stretch. The size of the radio is not the problem, it is the size of the batteries. I don't imagine myself being able to carry more than one spare in a day pack, I could pack probably four rechargeable packs (maybe more) for a PSR-500 in the space one SDS-100 battery takes up.
Major problem.
It’s called patching. They can still use the old system as necessary and patch necessary TG to them.
What is the "armature" side of radio? I didn't know that radios had coils and moving parts in them. I getting so dumb anymore that I can't understand what you are saying.
Who is going to pay for the patching? Rural counties are not blessed with a lot of funding.
Amateur. Spellcheck on my phone got the best of me when I had my glasses off you pedantic (expletive withheld).
The current communication provider. I doubt they are going to just rip everything out.
No need for name calling. I'm actually in cognitive decline due to brain trauma when I was half the age I am now (nearly 72). 5-10 years ago I likely would have picked up by context what you meant, but no more. I get called all sorts of names, but I'm really getting dumber as time passes. I'm not sure how much longer I will be able to stay on this, my last website membership with forums. Sorry if you were insulted.
The current provider is the county and it sounds like they don't have to means to fix the current system. With MRA they will be paying more over the long run.
They may if they reduce the scope of coverage. As for cost, possibly but it’s probably easier to pay more over time than try and get all the money now for repairs and upgrades.
I'm going to have to look at quitting this site. My brain just doesn't have the capacity to keep up. I end up getting called names a little more than I would like. People are so quick to insult others, this is but one of several times in the last couple of months. Even the owner of the site chose to insult me on a thread a couple of months ago. I guess I will have to start lurking as posting on forums just isn't working out well.
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I agree! My 325P2 performs well, but I really hate the form factor and the less than initiative user interface and short battery life. The other design factor that really pi$$es me off is the lack of a "real" off/on switch.
where, and how do i go about getting the other information on Inyo counties new system RAN and id etc,, at the moment i have the frequency's, however i don't know too much about the programing of the NXDN system in my scanner i have a uniden bcp536hp with the NXDN upgrade,i just purchased this and haven't had much time to spend on it yet, i admit i don't know a much about trucking etc and am currently reading on the subject, has anyone been able to get any further than me on this? that can give me some pointers, i understand that the SO is going to be encrypted, and i haven't heard if any of the other agency's will go this route, guess my question is? am i wasting my time with any of this. its also my understanding that EMS and FIRE have received their new radios and have the ability to use the new system however the change over hasn't happened yet as i still hear regular Fire and EMS traffic on the old system. Last night during a call out for SO for and accident in the south county area the SO requested to use the new radio system for coverage reasons. which was the last on heard on the subject.. thanks for any consideration on this that can help me,,
I don't have any answers for you, this is a new type of system that I've never had programmed into a radio. I have the BCD-325P2 and ordered it with everything but ProVoice. I was assuming I could download the system from the Radio Reference database, but I don't think it is in there yet. I'm just doing license research to determine where all the repeaters are located and the frequency set at each location. I have a big stack on my desk where I've printed out the admin, location and frequency pages from each license for both Inyo and Mono County. It will take me awhile to figure it out and begin to write a file with the frequencies for each site. Maybe someone here can tell us how to program this system.
How do you know that EMS and Fire have received new radios for this system. Are you on a volunteer fire department or know someone who is?
A hearty welcome to Radio Reference. I too am from the eastern Sierra and live up in Mono County. I try to keep the database and Wiki pages up to date for both counties, but am behind on some updates. I'm pretty much behind on everything as I'm experiencing cognitive decline as a result of some brain trauma from when I was 36 and I'm twice that age now. I'm retired from the Inyo National Forest, having worked the last 10 years of my career on the Mammoth Ranger District. Prior to that I was on the Bridgeport Ranger District of the Toiyabe National Forest for 6 1/2 years. Prior to that I was in AZ and NM. I only worked 4 years full time in fire management, but stayed involved in it for my entire career, having had over 120 fire assignments. I also had many non fire both emergency and non emergency incident assignments and a couple of flood assignments. I had the highest count of citations, written warnings and incident reports for any law enforcement officer on the entire forest for many of those 10 years. I was a non armed officer and worked in recreation management. I also was an on call accident investigator and on call personnel misconduct investigator which had me traveling all over the region. I loved learning the ICS and then using it on a variety of of situations in a total of 8 western states. I was a busy guy for all of my career.
i too worked on the Inyo both as a contractor and as the forest electronic tech, and had left the forest back in 2007 after the radio system upgrade, had moved to AZ to work at the Marine Corp Air Station in Yuma with Northup, and had since moved back to the area as of last year, I'm semi retired, disabled now Here in Mono County, as for the knowing of the radio's being distributed, i was told by a friend that works in the south county as EMS and was told it would provide better coverage to the areas they have to cover. as per all the frequency's and their corresponding sites i have that info all worked out, and am learning that my scanner is capable of discovery of the group tags, id and RAN information for NXDN after yet another upgrade, so hopefully ill be able to get the info i seek this way. what I'm unable to find out as of yet is whether its worth it, as its known the SO will be using 24 bit encryption, just not sure if FIre and EMS is going to as well.
Have you heard any rumors about Mono County going with MRA? They are supposedly in the process of replacing their system. MRA has Mono County well covered as far as their licensing. It looks like they aren't anticipating coverage problems up Tioga Pass though. There are a lot of constraints on locating any radio facility up that way. The county has a site next to the housing facility for the Whoa Nellie Deli/Lee Vining Mobil Gas Station, which probably doesn't do too well once the canyon makes a turn to the north at Ellery Lake. I hope Mono doesn't go with them as interoperability is going to be a b***h if they leave VHF High.
Hate to say this Mono is going with MRA as well, as far as interop, there really isn't much to be concerned with Mono is on board with MRA as well, i would think the hotline will still be in operation as it has been so the only issues i saw, was before i found out about Mono's plans, was both counties being on two separate radio systems on different bands, since they will be on the same, interop is void, things will pretty much be the same as it has been.
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