Is Huron using encryption now?

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tmon3y

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Is Huron using encryption now? I've only been getting fire & ems for a couple weeks now. Even paid for upgrades, reprogrammed, & still nothing. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

BCD536HP Scanner. Zip code entered with 20 mile range.
 

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If the RR DB is correct, it does not appear to be encrypted. I have used a 436HP up there and it works fairly well.

What upgrades did you buy?

If you are using the zip code method, it is necessary to check the various service types you want to hear.

What is your current location & how far are you from Huron?

The great thing about the statewide trunked system in your area is the lack of encryption being used. I found a few encrypted talk groups (channels).

In my semi-retired life, I tend to get bored from time to time. So, if you want me to program your radio for you, I can do it from my location. i have helped a few folks get their radios fired up.

The statewide system where you live is robust. I've monitored that system with great success.

You can find Huron on this statewide system.

When you open this link, you will see a section called "sites & frequencies." Look at this and you will find "county" in the 3rd column to the right. See which of these sites (locations) are closest to your listening area.

Then, we can proceed from this point if you like.

South Dakota State Radio System Trunking System, Statewide, South Dakota
 

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I'm in Huron. I bought all 3 Uniden upgrades (ProVoice, DMR/MotoTRB0, NXDN when scanner started only getting fire & EMS. I have programmed it several times before without a problem. I read that they just switched to new channels. I've also read that encryption is coming so I'm not sure of anything other than I'm frustrated. Model is BCD536hp. Should be simple unless radio reference has wrong channels because they just changed them. Thank you for the reply. Hopefully you can figure out more than myself.
 

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I'm in Huron. I bought all 3 Uniden upgrades (ProVoice, DMR/MotoTRB0, NXDN when scanner started only getting fire & EMS.
Welcome to the RR forums. These upgrades won't do you any good for a Motorola Type II Smartzone trunked radio system. Assuming ops are still in the clear as reflected in the RRDB (mode "D") the first thing you should check is to ensure all applicable service types are turned on for the talkgroups you want to hear: Reference "Tag" column per talkgroup table in the database for applicable service types. If all service types are turned on then I'd recommend posting your Uniden Sentinel .hpe export as an attachment to this thread so someone can check your programming. See directions towards bottom of post #6 in the thread linked here if unsure how

 

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Is Huron using encryption now? I've only been getting fire & ems for a couple weeks now. Even paid for upgrades, reprogrammed, & still nothing. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

BCD536HP Scanner. Zip code entered with 20 mile range.

Maybe I missed it, but I don't believe you ever said if you're monitoring the legacy system, which is what I suspect, or the new P25 system. The Huron tower is listed as online on the new P25 system as of yesterday, which doesn't necessarily mean they have switched over, just that it's ready when they are ready to move radios over.

1 (1)040 (28)HuronBeadle156.105159.105c159.300c159.435

If they have switched, then that's why you're not hearing them. It appears they haven't encrypted, since the Beadle/Huron talk groups are not listed as encrypted (yet). Your 536 will receive the new system, you just need to program it. That said, I can't help you past that since we're not on the new system yet around here, so I haven't switched my radios. Of course you'll need the new talk groups, whose numbers are likely 1/16 of the old talk group number. You could enter it on your 536 as a new system, and scan both. The link below is for the new system;

South Dakota State Radio System (P25)
 
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Maybe I missed it, but I don't believe you ever said if you're monitoring the legacy system, which is what I suspect, or the new P25 system. The Huron tower is listed as online on the new P25 system as of yesterday, which doesn't necessarily mean they have switched over, just that it's ready when they are ready to move radios over.

1 (1)040 (28)HuronBeadle156.105159.105c159.300c159.435

If they have switched, then that's why you're not hearing them. It appears they haven't encrypted, since the Beadle/Huron talk groups are not listed as encrypted (yet). Your 536 will receive the new system, you just need to program it. That said, I can't help you past that since we're not on the new system yet around here, so I haven't switched my radios. Of course you'll need the new talk groups, whose numbers are likely 1/16 of the old talk group number. You could enter it on your 536 as a new system, and scan both. The link below is for the new system;

South Dakota State Radio System (P25)
Thanks for the response. So i take it radio reference has not updated for huron since they switched then. What numbers do i need to enter & where? I'm lost. Is there anyone who can take the zip file i attached and fix it using sentinal on their pc then msg it back to me. That would make my day guaranteed lol
 

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Thanks for the response. So i take it radio reference has not updated for huron since they switched then. What numbers do i need to enter & where? I'm lost. Is there anyone who can take the zip file i attached and fix it using sentinal on their pc then msg it back to me. That would make my day guaranteed lol

Yes, they have updated RR for the new system. The link I sent you is for the new system, at least for the sites online so far, which includes Huron. No idea if Huron has actually gone live on the new system since I'm nowhere near there, but if you're no longer hearing them since about the time the new tower came online on the 15th, they probably have switched. I no longer have a 536, and since we haven't switched here yet, no way to test a program file. Take a shot at building the file using the RR database and Sentinel (or ProScan). Once you do one, you'll get the hang of it.
 
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Thanks for the response. So i take it radio reference has not updated for huron since they switched then. What numbers do i need to enter & where? I'm lost. Is there anyone who can take the zip file i attached and fix it using sentinal on their pc then msg it back to me. That would make my day guaranteed lol

I'm attaching an attempt at a favorites list for the new system for Huron. I have no way to test it and had to guess at what you'd want to listen to. I'm not that familiar with Sentinel, since I use ProScan.
 

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I'm in somewhat of a similar situation. I use a Uniden BCD996P2 and have never had any issues using Radioreference for Database downloading. With the new P25 change over my scanner stopped working. I have downloaded what I believe to be the P25 update but was still not getting anything over the scanner. For some reason I changed a setting on the scanner switching from ID SCAN to ID SEARCH and the scanner started working again, but it is broadcasting things that I have marked as LOCKOUT cause they are not in my local area so don't want to listen to them as they have so much stuff going on that I miss out on local calls. So anyone else on here using the same scanner and within South Dakota? Just wondering if anyone else is having issues after the states P25 update?
 

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I'm in somewhat of a similar situation. I use a Uniden BCD996P2 and have never had any issues using Radioreference for Database downloading. With the new P25 change over my scanner stopped working. I have downloaded what I believe to be the P25 update but was still not getting anything over the scanner. For some reason I changed a setting on the scanner switching from ID SCAN to ID SEARCH and the scanner started working again, but it is broadcasting things that I have marked as LOCKOUT cause they are not in my local area so don't want to listen to them as they have so much stuff going on that I miss out on local calls. So anyone else on here using the same scanner and within South Dakota? Just wondering if anyone else is having issues after the states P25 update?
Sounds like you have it set correctly. You just need to use the new talk groups. They changed the numbers so if you have the old ones programmed it will not receive anything. Once you put the new talk groups in it should start receiving again. I had same issue here too.
 

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Is Huron using encryption now? I've only been getting fire & ems for a couple weeks now. Even paid for upgrades, reprogrammed, & still nothing. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

BCD536HP Scanner. Zip code entered with 20 mile range.
Have you reprogrammed since the new P25 State Update that's been going on?
 

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Sounds like you have it set correctly. You just need to use the new talk groups. They changed the numbers so if you have the old ones programmed it will not receive anything. Once you put the new talk groups in it should start receiving again. I had same issue here too.
Yes, it worked after going in and changing the DEC numbers on the scanner. Now I see RR has updated the database with the correct numbers. Thanks.
 
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