Kenwood NX-5000 dual-mode P25/NXDN radios

[MaxK98]

Yes, I sell wide band, and no, part 74 is not wide band.

kd4efm Evans, sent using TapTALK on my HTC M9

Do you sell to fire departments? We are on an analog wideband system in the 410MHz range.

 

[kd4efm]

I can, as long as your stateside. And 410, that's DoD

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[MaxK98]

I can, as long as your stateside. And 410, that's DoD

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We are in Canada

 

[kd4efm]

I'm out then. Sorry.

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[cowand]

1.62 DES Encryption

Don't know if this has already been posted, but firmware 1.50 will not talk to 1.62 using DES encryption. It just takes the 1.62 flash, and you will be back online with your other radios.

I have not had time to read the 1.62 notes, but a DES modification must have been written into 1.62. After the upgrade I went a few days before needing to radio our dispatch, which was a no go. After upgrading the dispatch radio (and all the others), we were good.

Hope this helps you all out.

 

[RK3AAG]

Hi all!

2 questions:

1. What is the power for Middle RF power setting? There is no any mentions about it in either UG and specsheet.
2. Looks like RSSI meter has gone? It was present in NX-7xx/8xx, and was extremely helpful! So, new radio is not always better.

 

[Markb]

You mean this RSSI meter[emoji16] ?


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I believe it is enabled in software under the display menu.

As for mid-power wattage, I'd be guessing.

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[mmckenna]

For the NX-5700:

Low power spec: 3.5 - 6.5 watts

Mid power spec: Looks like 5 watts from the factory, but the service manual says: Medium transmit power is the purpose of the customer power (adjustment). The power must be lower than High transmit power. In the production, this Medium transmit power is adjusted at 5.0 watts.


High power spec: 45 - 55 watts.

RSSI is a bar graph on the upper left side of the mobile screen.

 

[RK3AAG]

Please do not post pictures 2 times bigger than my WQHD monitor!

 

[RK3AAG]

About RSSI. I am talking not about S-meter with bars, I am talking about RSSI in -dBm like in NX-700/NX-800.

 

[RK3AAG]

Thanks for info about power. Looks like Mid is the same as Low. No visible differencies on SDR screen when you jump between 2 of them. But High make a big difference.

Kenwood might set Middle to 20-25 W or something.

 

[mmckenna]

About RSSI. I am talking not about S-meter with bars, I am talking about RSSI in -dBm like in NX-700/NX-800.

Yes, it's in the maintenance display, just the NX-700,800,900,901's

 

[mmckenna]

Thanks for info about power. Looks like Mid is the same as Low. No visible differencies on SDR screen when you jump between 2 of them. But High make a big difference.

Kenwood might set Middle to 20-25 W or something.

I guess you didn't read my post above:

For the NX-5700:

Low power spec: 3.5 - 6.5 watts

Mid power spec: Looks like 5 watts from the factory, but the service manual says: Medium transmit power is the purpose of the customer power (adjustment). The power must be lower than High transmit power. In the production, this Medium transmit power is adjusted at 5.0 watts.


High power spec: 45 - 55 watts.

 

[RK3AAG]

Thanks, it's really Maintenance menu. My fault, for a long time didn't use it.

I've read your post, but it looks crazy when Middle equals Low. In these case they could call it 'C' (custom) or 'U' (user defined), but not middle.

 

[mmckenna]

Middle = low only from the factory and if no one adjusts it to where it's needed. Ideally the customer/end user shouldn't be messing around with it and it should be set up by the shop to what's appropriate for the user. Could be that they have several licenses and different power limitations for each. Being able to set up channels with different power levels is pretty handy. I've got agencies around here that are licensed for something other than the full 100 watt mobiles that most have. Being able to program our mobiles to meet the license requirements of these adjacent agencies is useful.

By setting it at the factory to the low level, it prevents someone who doesn't know any better from doing something they are not licensed for.

 

[RK3AAG]

Middle = low only from the factory and if no one adjusts it to where it's needed. Ideally the customer/end user shouldn't be messing around with it and it should be set up by the shop to what's appropriate for the user. Could be that they have several licenses and different power limitations for each. Being able to set up channels with different power levels is pretty handy. I've got agencies around here that are licensed for something other than the full 100 watt mobiles that most have. Being able to program our mobiles to meet the license requirements of these adjacent agencies is useful.

By setting it at the factory to the low level, it prevents someone who doesn't know any better from doing something they are not licensed for.

It will not work. Because every dummy can choose High from menu if it's programmed. Also, every buzzer can reprogram High settings by the same way via FPU, and these radios will NEVER violate license requirements. So, their idea isn't clear to me. But it's not so important, so we can stop this small offtopic.

 

[mmckenna]

It will not work. Because every dummy can choose High from menu if it's programmed. Also, every buzzer can reprogram High settings by the same way via FPU, and these radios will NEVER violate license requirements. So, their idea isn't clear to me. But it's not so important, so we can stop this small offtopic.

Yeah, actually they can violate license requirements, pretty dang easy. I've got a new repeater going up at one of our sites that's limited to 5 watts, both from the hand held/mobile radio side and the repeater output side. It's at an observatory on top of a tall mountain and the power limitations on the license were required to keep it from interfering with co-channel users.

It's also easy to not program in the option for the end user to change the power levels from the front panel. All the NX radios I have at work (387 at last count) have bee programmed to specifically not allow the end user to make any changes that will cause them any issues. Limiting what the end user can do is really quite important.

Small/off topic or not, it's important to note these differences are intended for a professional user, not just the hobbyist crowd that hangs around on this site. Some of us on the professional side still take the FCC license limitations seriously.

 

[kd4efm]

The maintenance menu is still there. If you use multi deck Rf, you loose.

Enable it in the menu or hotkey it.

Further more, I have no control on how BIG the pictures are. Thanks for pointing out that blurb.

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[wrackley]

KPG-D1NK

Can someone point me to where I can purchase KPG-D1NK so that I can program my new TK-5300. My Kenwood dealer does not sell this, because it is a P25. radio. I just want to program this radio for for my NXDN system.

 

[kd4efm]

Where are you located? I sell both narrow and wide.

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