• To anyone looking to acquire commercial radio programming software:

    Please do not make requests for copies of radio programming software which is sold (or was sold) by the manufacturer for any monetary value. All requests will be deleted and a forum infraction issued. Making a request such as this is attempting to engage in software piracy and this forum cannot be involved or associated with this activity. The same goes for any private transaction via Private Message. Even if you attempt to engage in this activity in PM's we will still enforce the forum rules. Your PM's are not private and the administration has the right to read them if there's a hint to criminal activity.

    If you are having trouble legally obtaining software please state so. We do not want any hurt feelings when your vague post is mistaken for a free request. It is YOUR responsibility to properly word your request.

    To obtain Motorola software see the Sticky in the Motorola forum.

    The various other vendors often permit their dealers to sell the software online (i.e., Kenwood). Please use Google or some other search engine to find a dealer that sells the software. Typically each series or individual radio requires its own software package. Often the Kenwood software is less than $100 so don't be a cheapskate; just purchase it.

    For M/A Com/Harris/GE, etc: there are two software packages that program all current and past radios. One package is for conventional programming and the other for trunked programming. The trunked package is in upwards of $2,500. The conventional package is more reasonable though is still several hundred dollars. The benefit is you do not need multiple versions for each radio (unlike Motorola).

    This is a large and very visible forum. We cannot jeopardize the ability to provide the RadioReference services by allowing this activity to occur. Please respect this.

Kenwood Tk-2312 PL issues

Status
Not open for further replies.

ssmith0645

Newbie
Joined
Mar 31, 2016
Messages
1
I'm fairly new to programming radios and im currently using a Kenwood Tk-2312 for work and I have acquired the KPG-134d software to program it. My issue is some of the departments I'm attempting to program into my radio has a higher QT/DQT encode and decode then the software will allow me to program.

Ex: 2-Tone
288.5 and 1092.4
my software will only go to 254.1 in the QT/DQT section, i alsop didnt see these values in the ''D'' or ''I'' numbers.

Any ideas how to program these?
 

mmckenna

I ♥ Ø
Joined
Jul 27, 2005
Messages
25,050
Location
United States
2-tone paging and CTCSS/DCS are two different things.

The CTCSS (QT) and DCS (DQT) codes are for the most part subaudible and are used to control the radio squelch. D or I are used when dealing with DCS codes. D is often put in front of the DCS code number to indicated it is a DCS code and not to get them confused with the analog CTCSS tones. The "I" is the Invert marker used when inverting the DCS code.
These would be programmed under your channel properties.

The 2-tone paging uses audible tones and would program these under your optional signaling.


So, you need to set up your channel first. That'll have:
RX frequency
TX Frequency
Emission type (Wide or Narrow FM)
RX QT or DQT
TX QT or DQT
Power setting

You then need to set up the signaling for that channel, in your case 2-tone paging.
That's going to be a separate window.
Tone 1 = 288.5Hz
Tone 2 = 1092.4Hz

You then need to go back to the channel set up and tie it to the new 2 tone signaling.

I haven't programmed on of these 2312, so that's where I'll stop. I do have access to the documentation that I could help you out some more with.
 

firemedic78

Member
Joined
Dec 15, 2007
Messages
71
Location
Menlo, IA
I am having some issues as well with programming the A&B Tone codes. I guess my issue more or less as are on programming the codes, I have everything set up and programmed correctly, my problem is I am not receiving in the alert noise when I set my tones off from another radio. The A and B codes are correct, 445 .7/358.6 are my A&B Tone codes. Right now, I have to have two zones set up because I want a pager channel is well, and since the audio control has to be different then the zone that scans and monitors all the channels I have programmed in the radio, I had to add zone 2 as my pager zone so I could do the QT/DQT +(and) optional singling, that way everything stays muted until our tones are set off, therefore, alerting the pager section of the radio. Right now, when I set my pager tones off, weather I'm monitoring on Zone 1, or in pager mode in zone 2, when the A/B tones emit, while in zone 1, scanning my channels, or just monitoring our county fire channel, I hear the tones physically go out and I can hear a quick pause, to where an alert tone would then start if it were correctly programmed, and then my blue LED light blinks telling me it received the selective call. Then, in zone 2, with the audio control setting asQT/DQT +(and) optional signaling, I hear nothing until the second tone is emitted, the speaker unmutes, and instead of hearing the program alert tone that I have programmed in there, which I have gone under Channel edit tab and have it set as 2-tone 1, under the optional signaling tab. I also have optional signaling set as 2-tone 1, on the main Zone page where you and put all your frequencies, encode/decode, channel name, ect... then, under zone 2, I haven't set the same way as channel one under zone 1. I have the RX and TX frequencies, which are the exact same as channel one, zone 1, which is our County Fire frequency, and I have the optional signaling set to 2-tone 1, so I know my numbers are correct but for some reason I am still not getting the audible alert noise when our tones alert. Under the channel edit tab, the same as Channel 1, Zone 1, everything is set the same with the exception of the channel name which I have is pager. The optional signaling edit box is also the same, 2-tone 1. Here is the following that I have in my channel edit boxes, which are all the same for channel 1 under both zones, again, which is for my County Fire frequency and tone A&B code....
Freq Tx/Rx-154.2350
QT/DQT Decode-None
QT/DQT Encode-146.2, which is our County Fire frequency PL tone code for transmitting on our Portables and mobile radios to talk to our dispatch console.
Channel Name-PAGER
Wide/Narrow-Narrow
Transmit Power-High
Optional Signaling-2-tone 1
Busy Channel Lockout-No
PTT ID-Off( we do not have any ID numbers or names for the PTT ID for the dispatch console to see who keyed up the radio like most bigger cities have).

All that edit information is the same for both Channel One under Zone 1 and Zone 2, and Under the zone information page I have the optional signaling set for 2 -tone 1. Now, on the right side of the channel edit window, are the following boxes to check or uncheck...
Beat Shift- unchecked
Scan Add- checked
Compander-( which I do not have any idea what it is, even with the help menu) unchecked
PTT ID Pause-unchecked
PTT ID Mute-unchecked
Lone Worker-unchecked
VOX- not highlighted as an option to check or uncheck.

Under the Scrambler setting box, Voice Scrambler is unchecked and Scrambler code is not highlighted to be able to enter anything.

These are the very exact settings I have, again, for both Channel 1 in both zones. It's just simply that zone 2 is pager Channel only so it stays muted until the tones go off and then I hear the last part of my B tone, which is when the radio unmutes, and I can see the blue LED light blinking, but I do not hear the audible call alert tone that I have programmed under the common one tab of the optional feature edit. Here is what I have programmed for optional features and their prospective tabs...

Time-out Timer(TOT)-60
TOT Pre-alert(s)-off
TOT Relay time(s)-off
TOT Reset Time(s)-off
Squelch Level-5
Microphone Sensitivity-Normal
Transceiver Password-blank
Power-on Text-blank
Display Character-Channel name
MuteHold Time(ms)-600
PTT ID Pause time(s)-1
Calling Alert Tone-10
Mode Reset Timer(s)-10
Data Zone-Channel-none

Here is what is on the right side of the common 1 tab window

VOX-Unchecked

PTT Release Tone- unchecked
Data Transmit with QT/DQT-checked
Scrambler Status Memory-unchecked
Auto Backlight-checked

The following is what is under the common 2 tab under the optional features window...

Left side of window:
Zone Edit box-
Zone Name-checked
Zone Name Text Length-none

Mode Box
Clone-unchecked
Self-programming- checked
Firmware Version Information-checked

Battery box
Battery Indicator-LCD & LED
Battery Warning-Always
Battery Saver-unchecked
Battery Warning Time-checked

Right side of window:
PTT ID box:
PTT ID Type-DTMF
Beginning of transmit-blank
End of Transmit-blank
PTT Proceed Tone:
PTT Proceed Tone-unchecked
Proceed Tone Delay Time(ms)-not highlighted, but says 0
Tone box:
Power-on Tone-checked
Control Tone-checked
Alert Tone-checked
Warning Tone-checked

From there, Tab 3 and 4 are irrelevant. I know a lot of this is useless with my question, and it is a very lengthy question. Basically, I just need to know what I am doing wrong to where it is not emitting the audible alert tone that I have programmed into it when are two tones go off. Again, I know this is lengthy, but I wanted to give as detailed information as I could about this software and what I have programmed, checked and unchecked for the particular boxes, and everything else you may need to know to help me. Like I said, I finally got it to where I can at least set it to pager mode on Zone 2 and at least hear after our second tone goes off but obviously I want it to work correctly and actually emit an alert noise like I have set for alert number 10 to go off when our tones are paged out. I know it can be done so I am honestly just missing something. I don't think it has anything to do with Fleetsync and the special alert tones for that but I also don't understand Fleetsync either. I don't know if fleetsync is a trunking system or if it really has to do with this. I am just totally out of options and down to my wits end on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. One extra question, is there a setting on here for fixed volume? On my Motorola, I have fixed alert tones to hear each tone beep loud no matter how low the volume is. Example, when I am in scan mode on my Motorola ht1250 or ht1000, no matter how low the volume is, it'll be beep louder when the priority Channel is sensing traffic, or when my pager tones are paged, and the alert is always loud, no matter how low the volume knob is. Basically the same thing as fixed alert for a Motorola pager. Something to that effect as well I am asking to know if there's an option for that on this radio so I can have the volume low but if I am scanning, I hear priority channel on my traffic it'll be loud, no matter what the volume is. Thank you very much for taking the time to read all of this and for any and all of your input.

Chris
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top