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Giddyuptd said:
What is disappointing to see is you could see several officers on the front of the line turning their volume down then looking at another officer to side turning his audio down to only realize the guy in front of them with a group of antagonists is the one blasting their channel audio all way up. The look on their face was worth a thousand words honestly.

there was one streamer who was being accused of being a undercover LAPD as he was using a xts4000. To the people in crowd they seen a phone device putting out loud audio that was originally concealed. He was followed and heckled eventually going toward the LAPD grid lock line. He ended his live after and never popped up again. I would guess he either left or got LAPD to get him to pass them and go other side to leave area from the group that was accusing him of being LAPD to stir things up in plain clothes. I'm sure doing this didn't help his plea in I'm not a cop to a enraged mob.

Tiktok has become a platform for these protests on live with radios and scanners being used to chase calls or find specific officers I've noticed the streamer has beef with over past incidents where shortly after some will heckle the officer in question to going overboard in filming and getting way too close.

Most these people either have criminal intent or no care for the protest cause but to gain profit off streaming live with a edge of police chatter.

I had also seen a thread elsewhere of someone asking anyone where he could obtain a pre programmed device to hear the cops offering up to 1,000 cash for it in person in LA area.

Things will definitely change after all these events and once they do there is no going back to the old norm.
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LAPD was frustrated over this the last time we had protests in the area as well. When I had a conversation with someone at LAPD they mentioned they will move at least tactical frequencies encrypted once their system updates are complete. I mean even SWAT is unencrypted and you have people on YouTube streaming the direct frequency.

Likely they will encrypt when they move to the planned trunked system (~2 years). I hope they do what LASD or San Francisco PD has done so far and leave dispatch alone, but not holding my breath.

Ultimately there are always those people who ruin this for everybody else.

Anyway back on this threads topic;
Picked up hits on LARICS TGs for SRT for LASD and a few encrypted interoperability talkgroups.
 
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mmckenna said:
Careful, there are those that will swear up and down that there is ZERO proof that encryption is for "officer safety".
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I don't think its for officer safety, i never thought is was. If the option, is there then its there choice to use. The E sucks, but its option they have and they can use it.
 
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mmckenna said:
Careful, there are those that will swear up and down that there is ZERO proof that encryption is for "officer safety".
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well I'm still one of them, but the comm plan was jacked, they should have Encrypted Tactical channels (LAPD didnt learn from the first time), the same thing happened in 2020
also i believe there are already laws on the books reguarding the use of scanners or radios in the commision of a crime, one would think that using a scanner to use the communications to find safe places to riot woulld be a crime.
mind you, im not blaming the rank and file of the LAPD as they have no control, but the people in charge are paid to have that fore sight, and it doesnt help the budget has been gutted.
 
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also i believe there are already laws on the books reguarding the use of scanners or radios in the commision of a crime, one would think that using a scanner to use the communications to find safe places to riot woulld be a crime.
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A law that is useful after the fact.

Get this straight: I agree that violence, looting and vandalism should be prosecuted.

Peaceful protests, which is what 99% of this is, is not illegal and should absolutely be encouraged, even if one doesn't agree with the reason. Freedom of speech and -peaceful- protest is covered by the constitution.

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mind you, im not blaming the rank and file of the LAPD as they have no control, but the people in charge are paid to have that fore sight, and it doesnt help the budget has been gutted.
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The Los Angeles PD is very well funded. Not every government agency gets an unlimited budget. Last time I looked, they were rocking APX-8000 and starting to get APX-Next radios. That is not "budget has been gutted" levels of equipment. That's top shelf equipment. Their issue is that they need to migrate to encryption, and doing that takes time.

I have an engineer working down near the very small area where these protests are currently happening, and LAPD had this under control. The news media has blown it out of proportion, as they often do. It's a good idea to not believe every word the news media says.
 
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mmckenna said:
Careful, there are those that will swear up and down that there is ZERO proof that encryption is for "officer safety".
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Fwiw the guy selling the LAPD lasd 5000s is out of El Paso TX. Keep in mind this was one of a handful reasons El Paso city and county strapped everything. Same happened out there with pre programmed from same seller for 350 you'd get a pre programmed but phase 1 nas radios which half would affiliate and they decided to solve it along with the live stream audit hassle. Soon after las Cruces next door to El paso was testing their phase 2 system and started seeing affiliations. Now that entire county resolved it by strapping everything including city services. Some can laugh but I guarantee there is people watching and paying attention out in LA with recent events. I'm wondering though how close to the actual lineup is for LA or it just all added from public lists. I highly doubt LAPD would have 1 zone with over 50 channels in it vs several zones at 16 per zone.
 
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I highly doubt LAPD would have 1 zone with over 50 channels in it vs several zones at 16 per zone.
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They have ~30 zones with normally 24 channels per zone. (Except the larger mutual aid ones have more).
For Pacific’s Zone it would be like
1 - Base Freq
2 - Simplex
3 - Fallback
4 - WestLA
5 - Wilshire
6 - LAX PAC
7 - LAWA ACC
8 - TAC
9 - TAC
10 - TAC
11 - TAC
12 - TAC
13 - TAC
14 - TAC
15 - General Simplex
16 - Emergency
… general acc freqs going past that selectable by keypad
 
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PacScan said:
They have ~30 zones with normally 24 channels per zone. (Except the larger mutual aid ones have more).
For Pacific’s Zone it would be like
1 - Base Freq
2 - Simplex
3 - Fallback
4 - WestLA
5 - Wilshire
6 - LAX PAC
7 - LAWA ACC
8 - TAC
9 - TAC
10 - TAC
11 - TAC
12 - TAC
13 - TAC
14 - TAC
15 - General Simplex
16 - Emergency
… general acc freqs going past that selectable by keypad
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So more less each division would have this home lineup with their base freq and simplex and closest division next to in main zone then repeat to next zone with the other zones. Seems more logical than the order I seen from those eBay ones.
 
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All dispatch channels only. Activity was for a good 15 mins. It was converted to digital only non encrypted
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Are these the existing listed dispatch channels? Just want to confirm. Also do you know which site?
 
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