Hooligan
Member
The RRDB for the Clark County area has been long-overdue for some updating by us. Absolutely, some people
have been making contributions in the recent past, however, it's an embarrassment that up-until this week, the RRDB still listed
the Lady Luck (a hotel/casino that seems to have closed about 10 years ago, & been the Downtown Grand since 2013). Numerous properties that switched to DMR months if-not longer ago still
had & have data for their old, analog systems up. Some systems showing Connect+ or Capacity+ don't have the complete LCN data and/or minimal minimal talk-groups. Some systems that have gone encrypted don't reflect that, etc. This week I made a few very basic submissions to the RRDB to try to rid it of the blantant outdated info so that people don't waste time with it, but now's the time to work to get good info into the DB.
Unfortunately, history has demonstrated that us locals don't really work well together to collectively investigate & share info (mea culpa), but this post is an effort to remedy that, for the sake of us as-well as all the scanner-geeks coming to our area to spend their $$ on vice, and save-us locals from unpleasantries like a state income tax. Yes, the down-side is that the hard work we do here is monetized by the owner of this web site & database, which is why my sharing here will still be limited, but maybe he'll buy us all Whistler 200s & SOS200s to share the love.
I've got the resources to dedicate a receiver & recorder to record days or even weeks-worth of voice traffic on a frequency or talk-group in order to try to ID user/use, but alas, when it comes to DMR or LTR, I'm handicapped by unident receivers that don't provide data other than DMR Color Code & a unident 536 that's got an LCN finder capability that's apparently not reliable.
If others can help ID & confirm ("trust, but verify") proper LCNs for Cap+ & Connect+ DMR, I'll set the system up in my receivers & can help with talk group data. Between old/bad info in the RRDB and the LV area being congested-enough that the FCC On-Line licensing system is helpful but not conclusive, I hope I'm not the only one that gets off my ass and actually investigates/confirms info by going to a property & trying to confirm their use via RF signal strength. For example, plenty of Stations Casinos use some of the same 900MHz freqs for their new Capacity+ systems. Last night I sat in the Palace Station parking structure with the antenna off a receiver to confirm that 936.150MHz Color Code 8 was their system (WPFX882), while 936.150MHz Color Code 9 is Sunset Station's Cap+ system (KNNF727). I then risked life & limb for the good of society by going to Boulder Station Casino to verify by signal-strength their WPFN334 frequencies & which DMR Color Codes their Cap+ system uses, as from home, I hear several different DMR Cap+ systems & color codes. Certainly, monitoring from home is helpful too -- If I hear on 936.700MHz Color Channel 14: "Advise IM that there's a wet-spill in front of Pizza Rock" then I know that freq & Color Code are being used by the Green Valley Ranch Resort Cap+ system.
Once we have & seem to agree we've got the basics of a system (freqs, system type, Color Codes, Time Slots, Talk Groups & basic TG use), we can have someone submit that data to the RRDB, then we could move-on to another Place/System to focus on here. If enough of us who know what the hell we're doing collectively target a system, we should be able to objectively gather & objectively confirm enough of the important info pretty quickly & then focus our collective resources onto the next system pretty quickly.
have been making contributions in the recent past, however, it's an embarrassment that up-until this week, the RRDB still listed
the Lady Luck (a hotel/casino that seems to have closed about 10 years ago, & been the Downtown Grand since 2013). Numerous properties that switched to DMR months if-not longer ago still
had & have data for their old, analog systems up. Some systems showing Connect+ or Capacity+ don't have the complete LCN data and/or minimal minimal talk-groups. Some systems that have gone encrypted don't reflect that, etc. This week I made a few very basic submissions to the RRDB to try to rid it of the blantant outdated info so that people don't waste time with it, but now's the time to work to get good info into the DB.
Unfortunately, history has demonstrated that us locals don't really work well together to collectively investigate & share info (mea culpa), but this post is an effort to remedy that, for the sake of us as-well as all the scanner-geeks coming to our area to spend their $$ on vice, and save-us locals from unpleasantries like a state income tax. Yes, the down-side is that the hard work we do here is monetized by the owner of this web site & database, which is why my sharing here will still be limited, but maybe he'll buy us all Whistler 200s & SOS200s to share the love.
I've got the resources to dedicate a receiver & recorder to record days or even weeks-worth of voice traffic on a frequency or talk-group in order to try to ID user/use, but alas, when it comes to DMR or LTR, I'm handicapped by unident receivers that don't provide data other than DMR Color Code & a unident 536 that's got an LCN finder capability that's apparently not reliable.
If others can help ID & confirm ("trust, but verify") proper LCNs for Cap+ & Connect+ DMR, I'll set the system up in my receivers & can help with talk group data. Between old/bad info in the RRDB and the LV area being congested-enough that the FCC On-Line licensing system is helpful but not conclusive, I hope I'm not the only one that gets off my ass and actually investigates/confirms info by going to a property & trying to confirm their use via RF signal strength. For example, plenty of Stations Casinos use some of the same 900MHz freqs for their new Capacity+ systems. Last night I sat in the Palace Station parking structure with the antenna off a receiver to confirm that 936.150MHz Color Code 8 was their system (WPFX882), while 936.150MHz Color Code 9 is Sunset Station's Cap+ system (KNNF727). I then risked life & limb for the good of society by going to Boulder Station Casino to verify by signal-strength their WPFN334 frequencies & which DMR Color Codes their Cap+ system uses, as from home, I hear several different DMR Cap+ systems & color codes. Certainly, monitoring from home is helpful too -- If I hear on 936.700MHz Color Channel 14: "Advise IM that there's a wet-spill in front of Pizza Rock" then I know that freq & Color Code are being used by the Green Valley Ranch Resort Cap+ system.
Once we have & seem to agree we've got the basics of a system (freqs, system type, Color Codes, Time Slots, Talk Groups & basic TG use), we can have someone submit that data to the RRDB, then we could move-on to another Place/System to focus on here. If enough of us who know what the hell we're doing collectively target a system, we should be able to objectively gather & objectively confirm enough of the important info pretty quickly & then focus our collective resources onto the next system pretty quickly.