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Low band Ball Whip elevated feed to VHF antenna

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This is for the old timers. I remember seeing a setup with the Ball and spring then it was connected to a elevated VHF/UHF antenna. They used to use it on open cab fire truck. Anyone remember
 

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I'm familiar with this kind of antenna with spring that would be used for VHF High band: Antenna Specialists Aspg730 39-42Mhz 3/4" Roof Mt W/Spring & Cable | eBay

The one shown is for VHF Low band. They would use a different base to match up for VHF high.

The ball and spring type you are describing, to me would be VHF Low band (30-50 MHZ) and not UHF.

Antenna length depends on the frequency used. Lower frequencies had longer antennas, higher was shorter.
 

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I remember seeing a setup with the Ball and spring then it was connected to a elevated VHF/UHF antenna.
Dou mean a big CB/low band type ball and spring mount with another VHF/UHF antenna mounted to it?
I have never seen or heard of anything like that. How would the coax connect to the elevated antenna?
 

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Had a few of those back in the 70s. They were the standard on most DPW and city dept cars.
And a few police depts.
 

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Look at the drivers side front, this is probably similar. It's a VHF Hi band coaxial type antenna, doesn't require a ground plane. FDNY used to mount them on the side of apparatus.
 

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Look at the drivers side front, this is probably similar. It's a VHF Hi band coaxial type antenna, doesn't require a ground plane. FDNY used to mount them on the side of apparatus.
It's a sleeve dipole. Sometimes called a coaxial dipole or coaxial sleeve dipole.

There are several variations mostly used as base station antennas. Sometimes they are made of copper or brass tubing inside a fiberglass tube.
 

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Look at the drivers side front, this is probably similar. It's a VHF Hi band coaxial type antenna, doesn't require a ground plane. FDNY used to mount them on the side of apparatus.
thats what i keep seeing. also asked in an older motorola group think i found what i am looking for
 

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This is for the old timers. I remember seeing a setup with the Ball and spring then it was connected to a elevated VHF/UHF antenna. They used to use it on open cab fire truck. Anyone remember
This is for the old timers. I remember seeing a setup with the Ball and spring then it was connected to a elevated VHF/UHF antenna. They used to use it on open cab fire truck. Anyone remember
Never saw a whip ball & spring used with a VHF antenna. All of the open cab apparatus in Lowell, MA had coaxial dipoles mounted on the officers side by the windshield. They were phased out as we got closed cab "B" model Macks with 3/4"nmo roof mounts,
 

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Never saw a whip ball & spring used with a VHF antenna. All of the open cab apparatus in Lowell, MA had coaxial dipoles mounted on the officers side by the windshield. They were phased out as we got closed cab "B" model Macks with 3/4"nmo roof mounts,
I've climbed through a few Lowell fire trucks, my son in law is with Lowell FD.
 

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Prcguy, remember those elevated feed point antennas LAPD used when they first deployed the T-Band system? Those looked ridiculous! Wasn’t long before they got replaced with quarter waves.
 

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Prcguy, remember those elevated feed point antennas LAPD used when they first deployed the T-Band system? Those looked ridiculous! Wasn’t long before they got replaced with quarter waves.
I kind of remember something big and goofy way back but I think they settled on an Antenna Specialists 5dB colinear for awhile on UHF with a 1/4 wave VHF whip for the old 150MHz channels. I had a 1987 Chevy Caprice PPV set up by the previous owner to mimic an LAPD NARC car of that era and it had a 1/4 wave VHF and UHF whip on the trunk, but those were different than the B&W patrol cars of that time.

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Man, that looks like one of the LoPro cars we had. I started with those cars. Yeah, LAPD went through a few different antennas, but eventually just settled on quarter waves. With their system that all they needed.
 
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