Maple -Six -one

[Saint]

Doing a search and came across this,
295.800 MHz
Maple six-one calling into base or maintenance to ask if Jazz-one had been refueled and also if he could get service. Then called back to cancel request.

I'm In Fort Erie Ontario Canada/across the Niagara River from Buffalo NY
3:00 pm today
Loud and clear audio
Steve

 

[kennyblues]

Maple is normally associated with the Vermont ANG
295.8 refueling route AR-631 Primary
NorthEast AAR Tracks - The RadioReference Wiki
Vermont Military - Scan New England Wiki

 

[Saint]

Maple Six One

Maple is normally associated with the Vermont ANG
295.8 refueling route AR-631 Primary
NorthEast AAR Tracks - The RadioReference Wiki
Vermont Military - Scan New England Wiki

:wink:Thanks Kenny for the info I will update my list.
Steve

 

[DaveNF2G]

MAPLE is one of several training callsigns used by the 158 TFW in Burlington, VT.

Don't have a JAZZ on my list, although JAMS is used by the 174th in Syracuse.

 

[Saint]

Maple Six-One

MAPLE is one of several training callsigns used by the 158 TFW in Burlington, VT.

Don't have a JAZZ on my list, although JAMS is used by the 174th in Syracuse.

Thanks Dave I will add this information to my list of frequencies.
Steve

 

[trainman111]

Are you sure the callsign wasn't JAWS? That would be another callsign used by the 158th at Burlington.

 

[Saint]

Jaws or Jazz 1

Are you sure the callsign wasn't JAWS? That would be another callsign used by the 158th at Burlington.

Well now after you saying Jaws and Dave saying Jams, I was sure but now I could have made a mistake, I thougt the pilot said Jazz 1 but I could be wrong.
Steve

 

[trainman111]

I would probably say it was JAWS 1 since MAPLE 61 was talking with their ops back at Burlington.

 

[ColoradoRedlands]

MAPLE is one of several training callsigns used by the 158 TFW in Burlington, VT.

Don't have a JAZZ on my list, although JAMS is used by the 174th in Syracuse.

FYI - Syracuse is losing its fighters to other units if they havent all left already.

 

[DaveNF2G]

FYI - Syracuse is losing its fighters to other units if they havent all left already.

True, but the tactical callsigns will probably remain at Syracuse for the new UAV unit and its associated operators.

The same thing happened when the 107th TFW became the 107th AREFW. They kept the FUZZY and other old callsigns.

 

[jack103]

Why would a unmanned UAV need a call sign??

 

[DaveNF2G]

It wouldn't, but other assets supporting it might.

 

[Hooligan]

Why would a unmanned UAV need a call sign??

Because most high endurance UAVs (like Predators/Reapers/Global Hawks etc.) will work civil or military air traffic control on the normal VHF/UHF aircraft band radio circuits just like any other aircraft flying thru controlled airspace would. On some missions they'll communicate with other land/sea/air assets using the same or mission-oriented radio systems.

The final link between the UAV & pilot in the control van is usually by microwave line of site or SATCOM. That link also provides voice circuits for the pilot or other personnel to communicate via the UAV to local ATC, AWACS, forward air controllers, etc. & for that communication as well as for the flight plan, the UAV has & uses one or more callsigns (sometimes one for the flight-plan & ATC comms, another for mission comms).


Tim

 

[Hooligan]

And by the way, JAZZ is a longtime static callsign used by the 122th Fighter Squadron (159th FW, LA ANG) based at NAS Joint Reserve Base New Orleans. Their tailcode is JZ. They fly F-15s, but like some squadrons, might also have a C-26 or something as well.

 

[DaveNF2G]

The 159th is a very unlikely intercept over upstate NY.

 

[Hooligan]

The 159th is a very unlikely intercept over upstate NY.

That's a very silly statement for Dave Stark to make (as was his claim about UAVs not needing callsigns).

A 159th FW aircraft could easily be up over upstate NY for some sort of exercise, a real-world air sovereignty mission, getting ready to fly across the Atlantic, etc. We don't know if the aircraft heard really was a JAZZ ## or not, & if so, that it was an 159th bird, but it being a 122nd FS/129th FW F-15 is very easily possible.

 

[DaveNF2G]

I said unlikely, not impossible. It is far more likely that the OP heard a regional unit with a callsign that might sound like JAZZ, as has been discussed above.

 

[trainman111]

So since we all seem to be concentrated on JAZZ, what about JAWS? Since MAPLE 61 sounds like he was talking to ops back at BTV, wouldn't it makes sense for ops to be talking about one of their own planes (JAWS 1, which happens to be the wing commander) and not a fighter from the 159th? I know for a fact that JAWS is used by VT-ANG because while they had a detachment of F-16's down here at Langley AFB they routinley used JAWS and MAPLE as tactical callsigns.