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Maxtrac proagraming through windows

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bstruel

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Hi
If been looking around a bit, but still cant find the answer...

CAN A MAXTRAC BE PROGRAMMED WITH WINDOWS (DOSBOX OR SO...)
 

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It is never a good idea to program any older Motorola radio that uses RSS with anything other than a machine running true DOS. No Windows at all. Can you make it work? Maybe, but you run the risk of corrupting the codeplug and/or killing the radio entirely. Old DOS computers are extremely cheap, read FREE if you look hard enough.
 

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Use a usb flash drive with dos in it. You'll need a serial cable though. Usb to serial converters aren't going to work well with real dos.
 

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Use a usb flash drive with dos in it. You'll need a serial cable though. Usb to serial converters aren't going to work well with real dos.
I have yet to find a USB-bootable computer that will run true DOS and be slow enough to run Maxtrac RSS. Can you give some insight on your setup?
 

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I use a Toughbook CF30 that is running dual-boot setup with DOS and Win7. It runs Maxtrac, Systems Saber, etc when booted to DOS and everything else when booted to Windows. There are two partitions on the HDD. One for DOS and one for Windows.
 

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I have a first gen Toughbook (with the CD under the keyboard) that is multiboot via partitions (dos 6.2, win 95, and it walks XP) , but it will not boot from a USB key. I'm just interested in the specifics of cmjonesinc's setup, it would help me down the line.
 

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I see no need to use a USB stick if the computer has an HDD as you can do what you and I did and set it up to dual-boot.
 

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I use OpenDOS on an USB with my toughbook cf18 (mk5) and my cf19 (mk3) with no problems. Programmed many maxtrac, ht1000, and mt2000's with it.
 

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I use OpenDOS on an USB with my toughbook cf18 (mk5) and my cf19 (mk3) with no problems. Programmed many maxtrac, ht1000, and mt2000's with it.
Good to know! That's gotta be the damn bleeding edge of what will program those HTs...you know? couple of more mhz and it'll be no go.
 

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I see no need to use a USB stick if the computer has an HDD as you can do what you and I did and set it up to dual-boot.

I use a flash drive opposed to multiboot in part because I can keep all my software on one flash drive and use it on multiple computers. Also, the encryption software on my computer makes it a pain to add an operating system.
 

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Good to know! That's gotta be the damn bleeding edge of what will program those HTs...you know? couple of more mhz and it'll be no go.

My old Cf19 MK5 didn't play well with ht1000's. Different processor than the MK3. Never had issues with any cf-18's of any MK.
 

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This is why I still keep 2 old machines running...both dual boot, DOS and Windows 95. 25 MHz processor.
 

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The primary unit i work off for reading & writing devices is a CF-41 (pentium 60), it's got it all. Multiboot of win 95 & real dos, 100 mbit ethernet for the NAS access, the coolest CD drive ( AND SPARE DISK HOLDING CADDY!?) ever, battery pack is C cell component sized, a usb port i can't boot from...I just love it. It gets looks whenever I take it out. Got a 286 laptop when I have to touch a Spectra and a Dell 830 for more modern stuff...

it's amazing how we justify keeping relics.
 

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I use DosBox on a Win7 pro 64 bit machine for all my old Motorola DOS based programs. It works for anything I've thrown at it. I'll just add a few stipulations:

1. My computer has an actual COM port.
2. I have to set the DosBox to emulate a 386
3. I still use a genuine RIB for most of my old Moto stuff.
 

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The key to all this is the real serial port. Yeah, some people get a USB converter to work, but I would not bet my reputation on that.
Would be bad to kill someone else's radio. I do enuf of that old stuff that I just keep a few old DOS laptops and a real Moto RIB. Its probably OK to me to risk one of my radios, but I would really hate to kill someone else's stuff.
 
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