med 9

[Phoenix805]

I hear strange pages on med 9 (462.950). They typically sound like:
"129, first floor west"
Does anyone know who/what they are?
The signal seems to be pretty strong all around town, so I assume it's on a repeater.
Thanks, Bob

 

[KB7MIB]

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I don't listen to EMSCOMM much anymore, since they were supposed to have been abandoned a year or two ago. Is that all you heard? How often has this occured? How long did it last?

 

[tipster67]

I have not entered them here in Phoenix, but else where, there are Med 1-10 channels.. They have always been on the same freq's.. Where they have been in use, they were for EMS to Hospital comms.. In larger community's they used separate freq's that were maintained by the hospitals. In Virginia, Med 8,9 and 10 were the most used.

 

[rpgaun]

I have heard talking on Med 9 a few months ago. It sounded like a Gulf Course maintenance crew. I know many years ago when the FCC changed up the frequency/band assignments the Med Channels ( frequencies) were released for Businesses to license in.

 

[Phoenix805]

The current 'pages' are frequent, probably once an hour or so. Sounds like a computer synthesized voice. The other day I actually heard someone talking. I wasn't paying too much attention until I looked down and saw Med 9 on the scanner display. It was a generic conversation, something like 'hey Joe, you gonna meet me for supper tonight?'

<I have heard talking on Med 9 a few months ago. It sounded like a Gulf Course maintenance crew. I know many years ago when the FCC changed up the frequency/band assignments the Med Channels ( frequencies) were released for Businesses to license in.>

I didn't know they'd been released, I guess I should do some digging and see if I can find any current users listed.

I suspect it's an automated nurse call system, but I'm not sure why you can hear it around town. Seems like it would be low power and you'd lose it not far from the hospital. Maybe I'll put the repeater input channel in and see where I can get a signal and narrow it down. Unfortunately that's time consuming.

I've listened on and off to the Med freqs over the years and don't remember ever hearing any good emscomm traffic on them. I assumed for years that the paramedics talked to the hospitals about EVERYTHING much like the old Emergency/Rescue 51 shows. Yes, I know that was only a TV show not necessarily representing real life. From what I've seen here they start IVs all the time without asking the doctor for permission.

I imagine they still have to get permission to actually administer drugs, but I've never witnessed them giving drugs. I have seen paramedics call the hospitals on cell phones and advise them they're bringing a patient in and what the current status is.

 

[KB7MIB]

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From what I understand, paramedic programs have been around long enough that in most cases the medics now follow an SOP that doesn't require them to ask permission from a doctor to perform most procedures. There are probably a few instances where they do have to consult first. Of course, there's always the courtesy notifications to a hospital of what is being brought in by the medics.
In addition to Med 1-10, Arizona also had Med 11-15. These were 453.025, 453.075, 453.125, 453.175, and 460.525. (Med 15 is on the same channel as DPS CID 5 - Pinal County, but used a different CTCSS.) The CTCSS on all the MED channels was 136.5. I had heard Boswell hospital security on 453.075 or 453.175 in the past. I don't know if they're still on there. They may have gone MotoTrbo since I used to hear them.
I don't know about the FCC releasing EMSCOMM to be licensed by businesses. If you look in the nationwide listings, you'll see that the split frequencies, such as 463.0125, etc, have been assigned to medical use.

 

[rpgaun]

I've listened on and off to the Med freqs over the years and don't remember ever hearing any good emscomm traffic on them. I assumed for years that the paramedics talked to the hospitals about EVERYTHING much like the old Emergency/Rescue 51 shows. Yes, I know that was only a TV show not necessarily representing real life. From what I've seen here they start IVs all the time without asking the doctor for permission.

I imagine they still have to get permission to actually administer drugs, but I've never witnessed them giving drugs. I have seen paramedics call the hospitals on cell phones and advise them they're bringing a patient in and what the current status is.

"Back in the Day" (yea, I'm old, gave up my Medic License in 1999), we had standing orders for just about everything. IVs, Basic Meds and procedures so we didn't use the Med channels as much as we did in the late 70s when the Medic thing was new. And with cell phones added to the units in the early 90s (the large mobile type), we hardly ever used the VHF Hospital Channels other than to update ETAs.

The only medical reports I hear since moving back to the Valley are from Helo transports and they are just condition & treatment done before or during the flight.

 

[KB7MIB]

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IIRC, "Emergency!" based their episodes on real life incidents, so other than some dramatization, each episode was true to the history of the paramedic program of LACOFD at that time.
And 453.175 just went active with MotoTrbo transmissions.

 

[KB7MIB]

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Sorry, duplicate post.

 

[KB7MIB]

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I just heard, "One hundred four, second floor west" repeated twice. (As I was typing this, it repeated again, and it may have been "One hundred fourth, second floor west".)
There's also a CW ID'er on Med 9. I haven't done anything with CW since I passed my Novice in '90, but if someone else can ID it and look it up on the FCC's license lookup page, maybe you can tell us who it is. Unless it's a state license, and not a specific hospital. (Or maybe it is the AZ State Hopsital?)
Now I just heard "One hundred three" and what sounded like "end of study", but that doesn't make any sense lol

 

[Phoenix805]

Yep, some of them are a little hard to understand, but you heard it. I'd sure like to know who/what it is.

 

[KB7MIB]

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The CW ID'er is in CSQ, the voice pages are using the Arizona EMSCOMM standard 136.5 CTCSS. I'm guessing whatever it is, is approved by DPS which ran the EMSCOMM network.
Maybe I'll ask on the ArizonaScanner Yahoo group if anyone knows. There's a state radio tech over there. He'd most likely know.

 

[Phoenix805]

Found this on a DPS page:
<The EMSCOM dispatch, calling and working channels operated by the Department of Public Safety has ceased operations as of July 1, 2012.>

I think MIB mentioned they were abandoned in an earlier post.

At 8:00 I heard a voice, again I didn't realize it was this freq until I looked at the scanner...
'Fire Department, 2000 hours, (callsign that I missed). Apparently Fire dispatch still monitors this frequency.

I spent the last hour digging around the web, and as often happens, the deeper I dug, the more confused I got!

 

[Phoenix805]

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Now I just heard "One hundred three" and what sounded like "end of study", but that doesn't make any sense lol

I just heard that one. That's what it sounded like to me - one hundred three, end of study - strange.

 

[VGSMC_8520]

Heard similar type of transmissions again today on EMSCOM 9: "123 3rd floor west" or something similar repeated 2 or 3 times. It was a woman's voice that sounded automated or pre-recorded. I never listened to the EMSCOM frequencies ever, but I came across this thread today shortly after hearing something similar myself.

 

[Phoenix805]

Heard similar type of transmissions again today on EMSCOM 9: "123 3rd floor west" or something similar repeated 2 or 3 times. It was a woman's voice that sounded automated or pre-recorded. I never listened to the EMSCOM frequencies ever, but I came across this thread today shortly after hearing something similar myself.

I never did figure out what the pages were, but I got tired of hearing them and nothing else of interest, so I finally locked out the channel. I was tempted to hook up a yagi antenna and try my luck with a little signal hunting, but just couldn't quite talk myself into it.

 

[KB7MIB]

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I ran across the pages again several days ago myself. They're still going.

 

[VGSMC_8520]

I made this recording this evening of a page followed by morse code on Med 9 (462.950) that sounded different than what I was hearing earlier. "Live" as opposed to a recording or a loop I had been hearing.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B24bKzit7HJyeTJlUTRlYWcyNTg/edit?usp=sharing

 

[Phoenix805]

Interesting. Yep, sounds like a live dispatcher, I never heard that before. KWJ771 doesn't show up in the FCC call sign database though. Strange.