MobileTech NXDN Network
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Williamson is Site 68 and that is why I can't hear co-channel Site 9 from my location as I said in my post above.
virtualspin315
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Site R13-48; CC=40694 150.8675
WQIS693
SAW MILL ROAD
PULASKI, NY OSWEGO County
ALBION CROSS RD
DUGWAY, NY OSWEGO County
WQIS693
SAW MILL ROAD
PULASKI, NY OSWEGO County
ALBION CROSS RD
DUGWAY, NY OSWEGO County
virtualspin315
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Has anyone found any MobileTech NXDN systems on 460 mhz band,
From everything observed so far, Mobiletech is keeping site numbers consistent between the old and new system. They are, however, apparently sometimes relocating to a new tower site in the general vicinity. So, it can not be ruled out that Site 9 "Rutland" could possibly be relocated from the Miser Rd, Rutland tower to the State St Hill tower, a few miles east, just over the Watertown/Rutland town line
I think the only question at the moment is what to call the site and which FCC license to reference.
I think the only question at the moment is what to call the site and which FCC license to reference.
They have some 460 NXDN sites, primarily "on campus" school sites that are sometimes associated with the buses on the VHF system and other cases apparently just for the school.
Virtualspin315, Have you looked at the RRDB listing? The information you are posting about Sites 48 and 68 is already in the Mobiletech NXDN system listing.
With the SDS scanners the Sys ID shows as Dh instead of 13 like its posted in the Mobiletech Communications (NXDN) System does any body else have this issue?
Uniden scanners display NXDN SysID in HEX, not DEC. That's what the lower case h indicates, and of course D (HEX) = 13 (DEC).
Thank you
Could you show both Hex and DEC in the data base for this system.
No, that's not an option, sorry.
The Pulaski site is reporting a new neighbor, Site 27. Here is the Pulaski neighbor list:
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-9; CC=40688 150.8600
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-12; CC=42836 153.5450
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-15; CC=41588 151.9850
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-25; CC=40676 150.8450
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-27; CC=41900 152.3750
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-51; CC=41882 152.3525
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-56; CC=41906 152.3825
Using the same logic as before, Site 27 should be Adams in Jefferson County.
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-9; CC=40688 150.8600
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-12; CC=42836 153.5450
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-15; CC=41588 151.9850
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-25; CC=40676 150.8450
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-27; CC=41900 152.3750
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-51; CC=41882 152.3525
RAN=48 R13-48 neighbor: Site R13-56; CC=41906 152.3825
Using the same logic as before, Site 27 should be Adams in Jefferson County.
I discovered a voice frequency for the Pulaski site with users on 151.5500 using TG=32. I'm not sure who these users are, but they share the same talk group as the Fulton Taxi. Is the use of the same talk group just a coincidence? Please note - I submitted the new Pulaski frequency to RR.
Great catch on Site 27! I have Site 42 Dansville co-channel on 152.375 so I can't get it. Everything fits for Site 27 is WPPU852, Adams. You should submit it, along with the new Site 48 NL data.
I was going to ask if the Site 9 CC had rotated to a new frequency to help pin down the location but I see it is still the same. Have you caught any Site 48 voice channel activity yet? Since Site 48 is only showing 7 neighbors, I suspect another may show up soon.
I am surprised that I can't hear the Site 48 150.8675 CC when I am getting ducting up to the Watertown area. The frequency is clear here but no trace of any signal.
I was going to ask if the Site 9 CC had rotated to a new frequency to help pin down the location but I see it is still the same. Have you caught any Site 48 voice channel activity yet? Since Site 48 is only showing 7 neighbors, I suspect another may show up soon.
I am surprised that I can't hear the Site 48 150.8675 CC when I am getting ducting up to the Watertown area. The frequency is clear here but no trace of any signal.
I see you did get the voice channel. I was typing my message as you sent this. I am sure that TG32 you heard is Fulton Taxi. They show up on sites all over the system at times.
Site 9 is also new; not in the database yet. Should be Rutland in Jefferson County, per the old system.
PS - Don't forget to include the updated neighbor list when making submissions. I updated it based on your post, but it really should be part of the submission.
Do we have any reason to suspect that it's not Rutland? So far all of the NXDN sites have matched up with their LTR counterparts, so unless we have some reason to believe Site 9 is an anomaly, I'm going to add it to the database.
Edit: I see that 150.860 is licensed in Watertown, not Rutland. No NXDN emissions on that license, however. I've added it as Rutland, if we discover otherwise it's an easy enough change to make.
Edit #2: It appears that Mobiletech is no longer being diligent about making sure the NXDN emissions are on a license prior to turning up a NXDN site. The Adams license is all 11K emissions, no NXDN to be found.
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Those are the reasons I was reluctant to add it to the DB due to call sign and location ambiguity. But, I agree it is a good move to add it now and fix the details later.
One more post... The Ilion site is reporting a new neighbor, R13-23. This should be Oneida. The odd thing is I am not seeing this signal and I can easily see signals from Oneida. Maybe it isn't on the air yet. Thoughts?
RAN=36 R13-36 neighbor: Site R13-15; CC=41588 151.985
RAN=36 R13-36 neighbor: Site R13-23; CC=42908 153.635
I did not submit this site yet. This may warrant a quick trip down to Madison County this week to confirm the existence of R13-23.
RAN=36 R13-36 neighbor: Site R13-15; CC=41588 151.985
RAN=36 R13-36 neighbor: Site R13-23; CC=42908 153.635
I did not submit this site yet. This may warrant a quick trip down to Madison County this week to confirm the existence of R13-23.
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It would be very unusual, from what I have observed, for a site to appear on neighbor lists before it is active. But it is possible that a new site has some glitches and may be up and down intermittently after it was put in service. If this is a new site within the last few days I suggest you watch it for a few more days to see if it comes up and if it remains on the NL. This being a weekend, if something is amiss, it may get attention during the week.
Update on the Oneida site. On my way home tonight, I captured the neighbor list from the Rome site and it included site R13-23.
R13-15 neighbor: Site R13-12; CC=42836 153.545
R13-15 neighbor: Site R13-23; CC=42908 153.635
R13-15 neighbor: Site R13-25; CC=40676 150.845
R13-15 neighbor: Site R13-36; CC=41480 151.850
R13-15 neighbor: Site R13-48; CC=40694 150.8675
Since I have seen this site on two neighbor lists, I submitted Oneida R13-23 to RR. If things are slow, I'll wander down to Oneida tomorrow and see if I can find a signal. This scanner hobby feels like the good old days of wardriving.
R13-15 neighbor: Site R13-12; CC=42836 153.545
R13-15 neighbor: Site R13-23; CC=42908 153.635
R13-15 neighbor: Site R13-25; CC=40676 150.845
R13-15 neighbor: Site R13-36; CC=41480 151.850
R13-15 neighbor: Site R13-48; CC=40694 150.8675
Since I have seen this site on two neighbor lists, I submitted Oneida R13-23 to RR. If things are slow, I'll wander down to Oneida tomorrow and see if I can find a signal. This scanner hobby feels like the good old days of wardriving.
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