Monroe County

[llzel]

Last night I was in Waterloo (not for the Queen of Hearts drawing) and I have Monroe tower 3 58 and Waterloo PD and Monroe sheriff TG and fire programmed and I was getting out of range in the center of town. on another knob (Unication) I was getting St Clair Sheriff on St Clair tower 3 59 full bars loud and clear. Does Waterloo PD and Monroe sheriff use St Clair Simulcast towers?
thx

 

[Starcom21]

Do you have the Missouri site programmed?

 

[llzel]

negative I have St Clair 3059 with Cencoms and dist. 11 which I sometimes can receive from University City MO. For Monroe County I only have the Monroe Tower CC programmed

 

[scanman1958]

Monroe Co has two sites for the county. One was an Ameren site and the one one you mentioned, 358. Take a close look at the sites located in Minroe Co in the database.

 

[nick1427d]

"Waterloo" Site 3-58 or 3A is one I can pick up all over without any issues. The tower isn't in town but you should have no problems picking it up in Waterloo. I did hear some testing going on over a few talkgroups the last couple of days. I'm receiving it right now but I am noticing that the signal drops out suddenly at times so something is going on.

To answer your other question yes Monroe Co TGs will be broadcasted over St. Clair sometimes.

 

[llzel]

well I should recheck my waterloo tower programming. thanks for the responses.

 

[nick1427d]

Monroe Co has two sites for the county. One was an Ameren site and the one one you mentioned, 358. Take a close look at the sites located in Minroe Co in the database.

Monroe County's 2 sites within the county are actually "Waterloo (3-58 or 3A" and "Columbia 3-23 or 17", a 3rd "Festus 3-61 or 3D" in Festus Missouri was put in place for users in the river bottoms.

You're correct, the Waterloo site is on the Ameren tower on Ahne Road. Columbia is at the Columbia police department.

 

[llzel]

I had the wrong control channel programmed for Waterloo tower. Oddly, Waterloo tower is farther away from my University City, MO location yet I can receive them with 3+ bars. St Clair Simulcast is closer and I get 0-1 bar.

 

[scanman1958]

St Clair simulcast is one of the hardest sites to pick up....for most everyone. All of its antennas are directional to keep the signal inside the county as best they can. You are doing very good receiving anything from St Clair Co in U. City. Hope you are hearing more out of Monroe Co.

 

[frankdrebbin]

I live in Monroe Co. and can only get St. Clair Co. Sheriff west and nothing more. Use a 996P2. Figured why spend the money on an SDS 200 when I can't pick them up anyhow. Heck sometimes MoCo sounds like garbage.

 

[nick1427d]

St Clair simulcast is one of the hardest sites to pick up....for most everyone. All of its antennas are directional to keep the signal inside the county as best they can. You are doing very good receiving anything from St Clair Co in U. City. Hope you are hearing more out of Monroe Co.

They use Omni directional antennas. The only “directional” antennas in use are for the microwave linking/backhaul. The st clair site issues are the result of poor planning. The #1 problem with the towers is their height. There are only 2 sites over 100m everything else is 40-60 meters. 40-60m is perfectly fine if you make it up with more towers like SLATER did. Anyone west of st clair is fighting 40m tower signals making it past buildings and topography before it gets to you.

play with line of site maps online and you can figure it out.

I never have issues with Monroe county. But then again I don’t use scanners anymore.

 

[west-pac]

They use Omni directional antennas. The only “directional” antennas in use are for the microwave linking/backhaul. The st clair site issues are the result of poor planning. The #1 problem with the towers is their height. There are only 2 sites over 100m everything else is 40-60 meters. 40-60m is perfectly fine if you make it up with more towers like SLATER did. Anyone west of st clair is fighting 40m tower signals making it past buildings and topography before it gets to you.

play with line of site maps online and you can figure it out.

I never have issues with Monroe county. But then again I don’t use scanners anymore.

The county next to me just put in a 3-site simulcast system. Their transmit antennas are side-mounted about 1/3 of the way up the towers. Their receive antennas are 2/3 up the tower. I talked to a dispatcher for that county, and they said it's because their transmitted signal can only extend ~5 miles outside of the county.