Morris County TRS
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mopd090
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Morris TRS - Countywide??
I believe that there is a study being conducted to have towns across the county migrate by 2010 or 2011. I believe that the County LPS is still looking to find a place or building to make a new 911 Call center which eventually all the towns will use as a PSAP point for a County-wide dispatch center. If the county has assigned TG's (possible) they haven't allowed anyone on the system.
I know that the infrascrtucture is in place (mobile radios, desk radio's). However towns would still need to purchase the expensive portables to work on the system. Perhaps towns that are willing to buy the $3k portables will be the first to migrate.
Personally, I like the way that Somerset County has everything on one radio. It appears to a novice like me that we have the frequencies and more zones (Morris - 4 Zones, Somerset - 2 Zones) to operate like Somerset. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of a /\/\ System can give input if migrating the entire county is even feasible.
One other thing which I would like to see on the current system would be patches of other TRS systems or Counties. EG:
NJSP B5-07 N Star patched to Morris TRS (allowing N-Star to talk w/ ground units)Good idea for both medical purposes or any LE purpose which would need Air Support
NJSP B2-04 4-Comm patched (Since most municipalities render Mutual Aid to NJSP on the highway which zig-zag our county, or to monitor pursuits, etc)
I understand that NJSP would not want to allow Morris Public Safety access to their system, but can't a patch be allowed without being able to talk back. Almost like a scanner feed into the Morris TRS? Or create a NJSP - Morris TRS mutual aid channel. A specific TG from the NJSP "NJSP-MORRIS" where either the NJSP can contact a municipality or vice versa rather than using the outdated SPEN. Similar to the NJSP Inter-agency North (I PD NORTH)
In addition, when info is put out on MIRS (since most PD's don't use SPEN anymore), this would also allow the MIRS broadcasts to be heard in the Troop cars.
Any thoughts?
I believe that there is a study being conducted to have towns across the county migrate by 2010 or 2011. I believe that the County LPS is still looking to find a place or building to make a new 911 Call center which eventually all the towns will use as a PSAP point for a County-wide dispatch center. If the county has assigned TG's (possible) they haven't allowed anyone on the system.
I know that the infrascrtucture is in place (mobile radios, desk radio's). However towns would still need to purchase the expensive portables to work on the system. Perhaps towns that are willing to buy the $3k portables will be the first to migrate.
Personally, I like the way that Somerset County has everything on one radio. It appears to a novice like me that we have the frequencies and more zones (Morris - 4 Zones, Somerset - 2 Zones) to operate like Somerset. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of a /\/\ System can give input if migrating the entire county is even feasible.
One other thing which I would like to see on the current system would be patches of other TRS systems or Counties. EG:
NJSP B5-07 N Star patched to Morris TRS (allowing N-Star to talk w/ ground units)Good idea for both medical purposes or any LE purpose which would need Air Support
NJSP B2-04 4-Comm patched (Since most municipalities render Mutual Aid to NJSP on the highway which zig-zag our county, or to monitor pursuits, etc)
I understand that NJSP would not want to allow Morris Public Safety access to their system, but can't a patch be allowed without being able to talk back. Almost like a scanner feed into the Morris TRS? Or create a NJSP - Morris TRS mutual aid channel. A specific TG from the NJSP "NJSP-MORRIS" where either the NJSP can contact a municipality or vice versa rather than using the outdated SPEN. Similar to the NJSP Inter-agency North (I PD NORTH)
In addition, when info is put out on MIRS (since most PD's don't use SPEN anymore), this would also allow the MIRS broadcasts to be heard in the Troop cars.
Any thoughts?
There is definitly a movement to have a new county dispatch center and to migrate some towns to the county.
I don't know of any programming of new talkgroups, there could be a plan, but I imagine it is very very speculative.
I don't think that every town would have a talkgroup. Maybe some would bigger towns/townships might.
If you look at county systems, they usually have a common dispatch and then tactical channels. I would think that areas would be grouped together based on call volume/need for dispatch. Say Chester/Wash Township/Mt Olive... (for example).
40+ individual dispatch channels would create a heck of a time for the dispatchers!
I also heard that they are not sure they have the capacity in the current system to migrate the whole county. It's one thing to have a few hundred mobiles... add portables and your talking a thousand or more units! This will be part of the study, I'm sure.
Also, the coverage with a mobile unit is good, we do not know the coverage for portables. Portables can be bought for less than 3K, but they are more expensive then conventional radios.
It's a good thing, and the county radio gods that be are being very careful and smart about this. Should be interesting to see the outcome.
I don't know of any programming of new talkgroups, there could be a plan, but I imagine it is very very speculative.
I don't think that every town would have a talkgroup. Maybe some would bigger towns/townships might.
If you look at county systems, they usually have a common dispatch and then tactical channels. I would think that areas would be grouped together based on call volume/need for dispatch. Say Chester/Wash Township/Mt Olive... (for example).
40+ individual dispatch channels would create a heck of a time for the dispatchers!
I also heard that they are not sure they have the capacity in the current system to migrate the whole county. It's one thing to have a few hundred mobiles... add portables and your talking a thousand or more units! This will be part of the study, I'm sure.
Also, the coverage with a mobile unit is good, we do not know the coverage for portables. Portables can be bought for less than 3K, but they are more expensive then conventional radios.
It's a good thing, and the county radio gods that be are being very careful and smart about this. Should be interesting to see the outcome.
I thought there was already in place a TG for every town with a PD. The reason being that if a car had to leave town like going to the jail and such, the car would have a way to talk to the dispatcher if their local radio didn't have the range?
I think it would be good for the the towns to migrate to the county system. Too many frequencies to program.
NJSP's system needs serious upgrading. It was built in the 80's. Unless you're under the tower it doesn't sound that great. I heard NJSP want's to go digital. I don't see how with the number of towers they have. They would need a few more just in the north.
I think it would be good for the the towns to migrate to the county system. Too many frequencies to program.
NJSP's system needs serious upgrading. It was built in the 80's. Unless you're under the tower it doesn't sound that great. I heard NJSP want's to go digital. I don't see how with the number of towers they have. They would need a few more just in the north.
mopd090
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Why not create group dispatch and Tac channels by geographical area or MCREDS zones. Something similiar to: WEST DISP, NORTH DISP, WEST TAC, NORTH TAC, like Somerset County currently has in place. By creating such, this could be a back up dispatch channel for all towns and allow broadcasts to be more localized instead of a countywide alert channel.
This would answer K2NNJ's issue about when a car goes out of town, they could still talk to their Dispatch on their respective area disp TG.
Why not create group dispatch and Tac channels by geographical area or MCREDS zones. Something similiar to: WEST DISP, NORTH DISP, WEST TAC, NORTH TAC, like Somerset County currently has in place. By creating such, this could be a back up dispatch channel for all towns and allow broadcasts to be more localized instead of a countywide alert channel.
This would answer K2NNJ's issue about when a car goes out of town, they could still talk to their Dispatch on their respective area disp TG.
The problem with what ewa090 suggest's, is that Morris County is heavily populated and we have a lot of cops and a high call volume.
ewa090's idea would work if Morris County was Warren, Sussex or Hunterdon County where most towns only have between 2-3 cops per shift, and the call volume is realitively low.
Morristown alone has between 8-10 cops per shift. I believe the average for Morris County with the exception of Mine Hill, Wharton (Same PD) and Rockaway Boro, is 5-6 cops per shift. The USDOJ decides how many cops per 1,000 people you need. I don't think you can drop below what they require.
At best if you consolidate the county in half, (2 towns per dispatcher) you would need 19 dispatchers per shift. 38 of the 39 towns have Police, Victory Gardens is covered by NJSP Netcong. You might be able to have 3 towns per dispatcher with the smaller towns like Boonton, Boonton Twp. and Mtn. Lakes. Mtn. Lakes dispatches for Boonton Twp.
Washington Twp. dispatches for Chester and Chester Twp. I believe Mendham Twp. left the system and went running back to mommy.
If the county wanted to migrate the towns into the TRS, I would think the towns would have to agree to do so. Also, for the towns to dump their dispatchers for the county would be a waste because the county would end up hiring them anyway for the massive influx of the towns being dispatched by the county. Don't get me started on the turf wars that would ensue.
To do the above would be a gigantic cluster____!!
ewa090's idea would work if Morris County was Warren, Sussex or Hunterdon County where most towns only have between 2-3 cops per shift, and the call volume is realitively low.
Morristown alone has between 8-10 cops per shift. I believe the average for Morris County with the exception of Mine Hill, Wharton (Same PD) and Rockaway Boro, is 5-6 cops per shift. The USDOJ decides how many cops per 1,000 people you need. I don't think you can drop below what they require.
At best if you consolidate the county in half, (2 towns per dispatcher) you would need 19 dispatchers per shift. 38 of the 39 towns have Police, Victory Gardens is covered by NJSP Netcong. You might be able to have 3 towns per dispatcher with the smaller towns like Boonton, Boonton Twp. and Mtn. Lakes. Mtn. Lakes dispatches for Boonton Twp.
Washington Twp. dispatches for Chester and Chester Twp. I believe Mendham Twp. left the system and went running back to mommy.
If the county wanted to migrate the towns into the TRS, I would think the towns would have to agree to do so. Also, for the towns to dump their dispatchers for the county would be a waste because the county would end up hiring them anyway for the massive influx of the towns being dispatched by the county. Don't get me started on the turf wars that would ensue.
To do the above would be a gigantic cluster____!!
K2NNJ said:
If I remember correctly, the number of 2.5 cops per 500 people stands out in my mind. That is not for each shift, but for the total number of officers the department needs to have hired.
K2NNJ said:
Morris county is heavily populated? Cmon... Parts are slightly populated, but lets be realistic here.
What could or will be is all guess work, but there are ways to do this and I really don't think every town needs its own TG just like every town does not need it's own dispatch.
Some of the larger cities manage by distributing the workload. For instance, you want a lookup, you switch channels. How much radio traffic is really needed on the main channel?
Shared services is coming... It makes perfect sense to move towards a centralized dispatch for Morris County. Much larger and busier counties have managed to do this in such places as California and Maryland.
With Fire/EMS you could consolidate the systems even further then police.
Compared to the counties I mentioned Morris is heavily populated. How many farms does Morris Co. have compared to Sussex, Warren, etc.
I don't recall any cows calling 9-1-1 or complaing about a loud party. Have you driven in traffic lately? C'mon.
Mount Olive is busy as heck most days. Now compare call volume from let's say Hackettstown or even Roxbury. They have lots of time to sit on Rt. 80 and write tickets. Population is directlly related to call volume. That is my point here.
I guess we'll have to wait until 2011.
I don't recall any cows calling 9-1-1 or complaing about a loud party. Have you driven in traffic lately? C'mon.
Mount Olive is busy as heck most days. Now compare call volume from let's say Hackettstown or even Roxbury. They have lots of time to sit on Rt. 80 and write tickets. Population is directlly related to call volume. That is my point here.
I guess we'll have to wait until 2011.
RocketNJ
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K2NNJ said:
Hmm, NJSP just upgraded their system to Omnilink. All new base stations, controllers, servers.
Can't help the coverage, that's their decision, but the system was updated and is fully digital capable. Some talkgroups are already digital on the system.
RocketNJ
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Also, if you listen, they already have some towns grouped together for dispatch. There's two municiapl talkgroups and six towns. Do the math.
It makes perfect sense to group smaller towns together, especially bordering towns.
The larger towns like Morristown and Parsippany might not ever go to the County for dispatch.
I've noticed they got licensed for a bunch of new frequencies.
It makes perfect sense to group smaller towns together, especially bordering towns.
The larger towns like Morristown and Parsippany might not ever go to the County for dispatch.
I've noticed they got licensed for a bunch of new frequencies.
APX8000
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ewa090 and kenisned are right on the money...
First of all you would not need 40+ dispatchers to cover the county. I lived/worked in south Florida for a few years and the SO's are 10 times busier than most departments here. Palm Beach county for example has 5 dispatch channels (North, Central, South1 (Delray/Boynton), South2 (Boca) and West). Each dispatch channel has it's own Tac/Car-Car channel and then one dispatcher for "inquiry" (data requests when MDT not available/calls for tows and impounds, etc). The SO covered the entire unincorporated area of the county which is waaaaay more populated than Morris County and also provided dispatch for a few towns. Broward County, FL is another example and pretty much the same. I think if they can do it with 5-6 dispatchers, Morris County can. Of course, this doesn't include Fire/EMS dispatch and call-takers, but I think half the amount of 40 would be more than sufficient.
Second, there is no way all the towns here will give up there own dispatching. Look at the problems in Bergen with the UHF trunked system. Most agencies want they're own little domain that they can control. And agencies want things done their way, not the county way. For example, Orange County, NY wanted to dispatch all Fire and EMS in the county and take that away from local PDs. Several agencies said no because the county dispatchers don't know the area/people like the towns do. Additionally, you must be dispatched the county way and utilize their protocols. You can't have 40 different ways of doing things for each individual department. And later on when my EMS agency (who originally stayed with town PD dispatch) talked about switching over to county, we were told no because they couldn't handle our call volume, go figure.
Third, the current TRS in Morris County was not built for portable coverage. I believe it was spec'd to 95% mobile in the street coverage. That is ALOT different than 95% in-building coverage. I certaininly know what it's like to call on the radio and not get a response, have to walk outside and take my portable off my belt and hold it in the air and still get "your unreadable." I also know that many departments cannot afford $3000+ for an XTS5000 portable, especially volunteer Fire and EMS agencies. And we all should know that a Fireground should never be on a trunked channel (per NFPA)...so you would still need numerous analog simplex channels.
I think a big problem with PD's is the constant b/s chatter on dispatch channels. For example, instead of saying "10-98 report" when they clear a call, you'll hear "I spoke with the complainant, they were advised, information taken for a report, I'll be clear, blah blah blah." Also, car to car comms shouldn't take place on dispatch channels. By implementing things like 10 codes/signal codes/disposition codes, etc., MDT's for CAD/DMV, etc., radio traffic could be sgnificantly reduced thereby freeing up airwaves for more priority traffic.
Just my .02 which can't but anything anymore.
First of all you would not need 40+ dispatchers to cover the county. I lived/worked in south Florida for a few years and the SO's are 10 times busier than most departments here. Palm Beach county for example has 5 dispatch channels (North, Central, South1 (Delray/Boynton), South2 (Boca) and West). Each dispatch channel has it's own Tac/Car-Car channel and then one dispatcher for "inquiry" (data requests when MDT not available/calls for tows and impounds, etc). The SO covered the entire unincorporated area of the county which is waaaaay more populated than Morris County and also provided dispatch for a few towns. Broward County, FL is another example and pretty much the same. I think if they can do it with 5-6 dispatchers, Morris County can. Of course, this doesn't include Fire/EMS dispatch and call-takers, but I think half the amount of 40 would be more than sufficient.
Second, there is no way all the towns here will give up there own dispatching. Look at the problems in Bergen with the UHF trunked system. Most agencies want they're own little domain that they can control. And agencies want things done their way, not the county way. For example, Orange County, NY wanted to dispatch all Fire and EMS in the county and take that away from local PDs. Several agencies said no because the county dispatchers don't know the area/people like the towns do. Additionally, you must be dispatched the county way and utilize their protocols. You can't have 40 different ways of doing things for each individual department. And later on when my EMS agency (who originally stayed with town PD dispatch) talked about switching over to county, we were told no because they couldn't handle our call volume, go figure.
Third, the current TRS in Morris County was not built for portable coverage. I believe it was spec'd to 95% mobile in the street coverage. That is ALOT different than 95% in-building coverage. I certaininly know what it's like to call on the radio and not get a response, have to walk outside and take my portable off my belt and hold it in the air and still get "your unreadable." I also know that many departments cannot afford $3000+ for an XTS5000 portable, especially volunteer Fire and EMS agencies. And we all should know that a Fireground should never be on a trunked channel (per NFPA)...so you would still need numerous analog simplex channels.
I think a big problem with PD's is the constant b/s chatter on dispatch channels. For example, instead of saying "10-98 report" when they clear a call, you'll hear "I spoke with the complainant, they were advised, information taken for a report, I'll be clear, blah blah blah." Also, car to car comms shouldn't take place on dispatch channels. By implementing things like 10 codes/signal codes/disposition codes, etc., MDT's for CAD/DMV, etc., radio traffic could be sgnificantly reduced thereby freeing up airwaves for more priority traffic.
Just my .02 which can't but anything anymore.
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e911god said:
Here are a few problems:
- 10 Codes shouldn't really be used anymore. The big part of NIMS is that everyone is to use plain english. However, PDs have become exempt from this, unless they need to speak to another town directly.
- Having all dispatching rolled into one county center creates another problem. If the local police department does not have their own dispatchers, they cannot have their own holding cells for prisoners - they must be taken to the county jail as soon as feasable. I know this because my town uses county dispatching, and our town is desingning a new boro hall. First thing I noticed was there was no holding cells, and I was told by one of our Lieutenants that they can't have them unless they have their own dispatchers. He said it was state law.
e911god said:
Good comments, just a couple of points on what I quoted.
You don't have to go with the xts5000. The county's cache are xts1500's. Considerably cheaper. Even the xts2500 is only ~2K.
In NJ, there is a new Fire Safety regulation coming out that all maydays must be handled on a repeater channel.... which makes me cringe. Interior to exterior is sometimes better on a direct tac channel. I think the argument against that is that dispatch wouldn't be monitoring it...
10 codes need to die. If we need an additional dispatcher to handle "affirmative" instead of "10-4". So be it.
I think what will happen is not a transition to the county system. I think that you might see some vhf systems like washington twp/mount olive... being consolidated or patched or used as a tactical channels for fireground.
There may also be additional infrastructure installed to increase coverage....
Perhaps mobile repeaters ...
There are creative ways to approach this. It won't be cheap and will not happen overnight.
ctrabs74
Member
K2NNJ said:
Even with 38 municipal police agencies, you could get away with no fewer than 6-to-8 dispatch zones considering the low call volume for some agencies. Also, even if some of the larger agencies opted to remain self-dispatched (ie. Morristown and Parsippany), they could still have access to the county system and operate on the county system (a good example is Montgomery County, Pa. - most PDs are dispatched by the county, but all except a couple of self-dispatched depts operate on the county system).
The earlier reference to each town having it's own TG on the system could very well be for side-channel use. Look at Salem County's TRS, where, IIRC, all dispatching is done by the county, but every municipality that has a PD/FD/EMS/Public Works agency has an assigned TG on the system.
If Morris County decides to go with centralized county dispatch, I think it would work out a lot better than most people think. Most Pennsylvania counties have centralized dispatch for PD/FD/EMS, and I don't see too many counties on this side of the Delaware worrying about the sky falling...
mopd090
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Today's Solution - Countywide Interoperability
I think as a whole we would need to examine the true need of a Countywide system. Personally, we need seemless interoperability amoung 39 municipalities, various county level gov't, and perhaps some state gov't. Lets examine something.
Has anyone else noticed a vast majority of Morris County towns have been allocating funds to migrate their current radio system to UHF freqs. Dealing only with the municipal police, only 11 of the 37 municipal PD's use a frequency other than UHF. All others currently utilize UHF or have licenses for a UHF system. The /\/\ radio used by the county (XTL2500) has a frequency spectrum of 450-520 mHz and have a 256 channel capacity. All UHF freq's being used fit into that spectrum.
Why not program the TRS radios with the conventional freqs to allow users interoperability. The towns without UHF could be patched to the TRS but still maintain their current system (no added expense of purchasing new equipment for towns). This allows others to monitor situations in neighboring towns before a "formal" request is made for mutual aid assistance. My example below details how MCREDS Zone 4 (WEST) would be handled for Law Enforcement.
MIRS-1 Countywide Call
MIPD-4 Specific Zone & Specific User Group (PD)
INOP-4 Specific Zone (All users PD, FD, & EMS)
MUN PD 1 Dispatch for Mt. Arlington & Netcong PD
CHESTER (Patched from VHF-Hi)
MT OLIVE (Currently has a UHF License)
RANDOLPH (Utilizing UHF)
ROXBURY (Utilizing UHF)
WASH TWP (Patched from VHF-Hi)
By setting it up this way, the county would not need individual TG's for every town. This is a solution which could be put into place today, only (2) towns would need to be patched and Mt Olive PD upgraded to or multi-cast on a UHF dispatch. Furthermore, this would not put stress on the current TRS system with added radio traffic. As time goes on and the TRS infra-structure is upgraded, towns could migrate to the TRS as the County OEM sees fit.
I think as a whole we would need to examine the true need of a Countywide system. Personally, we need seemless interoperability amoung 39 municipalities, various county level gov't, and perhaps some state gov't. Lets examine something.
Has anyone else noticed a vast majority of Morris County towns have been allocating funds to migrate their current radio system to UHF freqs. Dealing only with the municipal police, only 11 of the 37 municipal PD's use a frequency other than UHF. All others currently utilize UHF or have licenses for a UHF system. The /\/\ radio used by the county (XTL2500) has a frequency spectrum of 450-520 mHz and have a 256 channel capacity. All UHF freq's being used fit into that spectrum.
Why not program the TRS radios with the conventional freqs to allow users interoperability. The towns without UHF could be patched to the TRS but still maintain their current system (no added expense of purchasing new equipment for towns). This allows others to monitor situations in neighboring towns before a "formal" request is made for mutual aid assistance. My example below details how MCREDS Zone 4 (WEST) would be handled for Law Enforcement.
MIRS-1 Countywide Call
MIPD-4 Specific Zone & Specific User Group (PD)
INOP-4 Specific Zone (All users PD, FD, & EMS)
MUN PD 1 Dispatch for Mt. Arlington & Netcong PD
CHESTER (Patched from VHF-Hi)
MT OLIVE (Currently has a UHF License)
RANDOLPH (Utilizing UHF)
ROXBURY (Utilizing UHF)
WASH TWP (Patched from VHF-Hi)
By setting it up this way, the county would not need individual TG's for every town. This is a solution which could be put into place today, only (2) towns would need to be patched and Mt Olive PD upgraded to or multi-cast on a UHF dispatch. Furthermore, this would not put stress on the current TRS system with added radio traffic. As time goes on and the TRS infra-structure is upgraded, towns could migrate to the TRS as the County OEM sees fit.
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I would have to echo ewa90's comments about true interoperability and having everyone on the same system is the only true way to solve the issue.
I believe there was an earlier post referencing the needs to new portables for each department switching over and the associated costs. Just recently in Roxbury a Park Police office was assaulted while trying to stop a guy riding a ATV in the woods and the Park PD, Sheriff's K9, Roxbury PD and Wharton PD were all involved in the search. While I did hear the Park PD calling Roxbury on MIRS-1, only the Park PD, Sheriff and Wharton units have it programmed into their portables. Roxbury only has it in the cars. Having everyone on the same frequency would have eliminated some of the confusion and relaying of messages on different frequencies by the dispatchers.
I would also think that if places like Washington Twp, switched over they'd have to keep their VHF radios because they do have Warren county frequencies programmed in for Inter-County I/O. Additionally locations like Washington Twp., Chester and Mt. Olive are on VHF due to the size and different terrains within each location so there would probably also have to be some additional County TRS towers put up in order to provide total coverage on UHF.
If it was organized into regional dispatch zones (as previously suggested) it shoudl work out fine. Each town shouldn't have their own talkgroup anyway. Certainly smaller Morris county towns (Butler, Kinnelon, Boonton, etc) would benefit from centrailized dispatching for the simple fact that their not that busy. The larger towns like Morristown or Parsippany who may not want to switch over, don't have to and can stay on their existing systems or just piggy-back on the county system with their own talkgroup and own dispatcher but maintingin I/O capabilities with surrounding towns which is the main goal.
Just my 2 cents anyway.
I believe there was an earlier post referencing the needs to new portables for each department switching over and the associated costs. Just recently in Roxbury a Park Police office was assaulted while trying to stop a guy riding a ATV in the woods and the Park PD, Sheriff's K9, Roxbury PD and Wharton PD were all involved in the search. While I did hear the Park PD calling Roxbury on MIRS-1, only the Park PD, Sheriff and Wharton units have it programmed into their portables. Roxbury only has it in the cars. Having everyone on the same frequency would have eliminated some of the confusion and relaying of messages on different frequencies by the dispatchers.
I would also think that if places like Washington Twp, switched over they'd have to keep their VHF radios because they do have Warren county frequencies programmed in for Inter-County I/O. Additionally locations like Washington Twp., Chester and Mt. Olive are on VHF due to the size and different terrains within each location so there would probably also have to be some additional County TRS towers put up in order to provide total coverage on UHF.
If it was organized into regional dispatch zones (as previously suggested) it shoudl work out fine. Each town shouldn't have their own talkgroup anyway. Certainly smaller Morris county towns (Butler, Kinnelon, Boonton, etc) would benefit from centrailized dispatching for the simple fact that their not that busy. The larger towns like Morristown or Parsippany who may not want to switch over, don't have to and can stay on their existing systems or just piggy-back on the county system with their own talkgroup and own dispatcher but maintingin I/O capabilities with surrounding towns which is the main goal.
Just my 2 cents anyway.
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