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motorola 5000 consolett
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RKG
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1) I assume you are talking about an "XTL5000 Consolette."
2) Wiring to a headset should not be a problem, but neither is it as simple as might appear.
3) Step one is to figure out which boards are in your XTL Consolette. Most of the time you'll find either the L791 AIB (Audio Interface Board) or the L146 TRC (tone remote control board).
4) Step two is to program the boards, which you do via DIP switches after exposing them. For the AIB, you'll want to set S101-6 to OFF (local desk mike present). Assuming your headset loads to 600 ohm, be sure that S101-4 is set ON and S101-5 is set OFF (both are the default settings). If you have the TRC board, same settings for S101-4, -5 and -6, and S100-2 should be set for ON (local mike not routed down wireline) (note: if you are actually using the wireline, this may change, but at this point you should probably consult with the techs who maintain your wireline system). I'd recommend you set S100-5, -6, -7 and -8 for OFF, ON, OFF, OFF, respectively; this will disable EIA mode select so you don't see any unintended mode changes as a result of stray signals.
5) Lines for connecting your headset are on Accessory Connector #2:
Pin 14 is deskset RX+
Pint 15 is deskset RX- Note: do not short either of these pins to ground, or connect them to any device that will route them to ground, or you will damage the radio deck's audio amplifier! Also note: you may see pins 1 and 16 labelled as Rx lines; these are for TRC devices, not deskset devices.
Pin 3 is deskset TX+
Pin 11 is deskset TX-
Pin 10 is PTT, active low.
Pin 2 is ground (analog or digital) and can be used with PTT function if needed or to bond with headset ground.
If your headset performs audio muting and has a VOX circuit, use it. AC#2, Pin 25, which Motorola calls "Spkr_Unmute" can be used as a COR line in theory, but I've never found it to be reliable with third party devices.
6) Please don't take this the hard way, but I'm not sure this is a DIY project (unless you are a tech). If you do attempt this on your own, it might save you some headaches if you get your hands on Motorola publication 6881098C21-O, which is the install manual for the XTL Consolette series. The manual will also guide you as to any programming changes required to implement the external device.
Good luck.
2) Wiring to a headset should not be a problem, but neither is it as simple as might appear.
3) Step one is to figure out which boards are in your XTL Consolette. Most of the time you'll find either the L791 AIB (Audio Interface Board) or the L146 TRC (tone remote control board).
4) Step two is to program the boards, which you do via DIP switches after exposing them. For the AIB, you'll want to set S101-6 to OFF (local desk mike present). Assuming your headset loads to 600 ohm, be sure that S101-4 is set ON and S101-5 is set OFF (both are the default settings). If you have the TRC board, same settings for S101-4, -5 and -6, and S100-2 should be set for ON (local mike not routed down wireline) (note: if you are actually using the wireline, this may change, but at this point you should probably consult with the techs who maintain your wireline system). I'd recommend you set S100-5, -6, -7 and -8 for OFF, ON, OFF, OFF, respectively; this will disable EIA mode select so you don't see any unintended mode changes as a result of stray signals.
5) Lines for connecting your headset are on Accessory Connector #2:
Pin 14 is deskset RX+
Pint 15 is deskset RX- Note: do not short either of these pins to ground, or connect them to any device that will route them to ground, or you will damage the radio deck's audio amplifier! Also note: you may see pins 1 and 16 labelled as Rx lines; these are for TRC devices, not deskset devices.
Pin 3 is deskset TX+
Pin 11 is deskset TX-
Pin 10 is PTT, active low.
Pin 2 is ground (analog or digital) and can be used with PTT function if needed or to bond with headset ground.
If your headset performs audio muting and has a VOX circuit, use it. AC#2, Pin 25, which Motorola calls "Spkr_Unmute" can be used as a COR line in theory, but I've never found it to be reliable with third party devices.
6) Please don't take this the hard way, but I'm not sure this is a DIY project (unless you are a tech). If you do attempt this on your own, it might save you some headaches if you get your hands on Motorola publication 6881098C21-O, which is the install manual for the XTL Consolette series. The manual will also guide you as to any programming changes required to implement the external device.
Good luck.
Chief201
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Big Help, Thanks!
I have four consoletts that were tied into a centracom gold but never operational.
The centracom had two headset jacks model BLN1211B with dual volume controls. The cable is 5 twisted pair with 3083643P09 Rev.T 0539L marking.
I want to install the headset jack direct to the consoletle as a stand alone base radio for the county EOC.
The headset jack - still looking for a diagram - appears that it can cut off speaker/mic when plug is inserted.
If that is the case, we should be able to use the desk mic or headset which is my goal.
I have a friend looking for a manual for the headset jack and for the radio but so far the search is not going well.
As far as moto tech - no, we are three hams with over 100+ years of experence. One retired AT&T microwave engineer, one commercial radio station engineer and a retired police chief that donate time to our county.
If we have manuals and advice like yours, we can follow directions. We have designed, built and maintain several ham and public safety repeaters. However, we are MSF, Quantar guys, not 5000 (except to program).
You have been a big help, we were looking at cutting wires and installing terminal strip.
Thanks again
Chief
Markings on the board are: 846428H01 REV A, VR124, 54865T-01-C, PLN1687A
I have four consoletts that were tied into a centracom gold but never operational.
The centracom had two headset jacks model BLN1211B with dual volume controls. The cable is 5 twisted pair with 3083643P09 Rev.T 0539L marking.
I want to install the headset jack direct to the consoletle as a stand alone base radio for the county EOC.
The headset jack - still looking for a diagram - appears that it can cut off speaker/mic when plug is inserted.
If that is the case, we should be able to use the desk mic or headset which is my goal.
I have a friend looking for a manual for the headset jack and for the radio but so far the search is not going well.
As far as moto tech - no, we are three hams with over 100+ years of experence. One retired AT&T microwave engineer, one commercial radio station engineer and a retired police chief that donate time to our county.
If we have manuals and advice like yours, we can follow directions. We have designed, built and maintain several ham and public safety repeaters. However, we are MSF, Quantar guys, not 5000 (except to program).
You have been a big help, we were looking at cutting wires and installing terminal strip.
Thanks again
Chief
Markings on the board are: 846428H01 REV A, VR124, 54865T-01-C, PLN1687A
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RKG
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1) Translating Motorola p/ns can be risky business, but I happen to be looking at the component layout diagram for the L146 Option (TRC) board, and it is labeled "PLN1687A," so I'd guess you have a TRC Consolette. In that case, you might find it easier to get your hands on a TRC desktop remote, route that to the Consolette TRC board in a two-wire configuration (since the radio is semi-duplex anyhow), and then make your headset interface to the desktop remote.
If you do this, use Accessory Connector #2 Pins 1 (high) and 16 (low) for a two-wire tone connection to the Consolette. Also set or verify that TRC board S100-3 is set for ON (TRC control).
2) One thing I should have pointed out is to be careful of the Consolette power supply. When you open the case (an adventure in itself), you'll say to yourself, "Jeekers, that looks like a garden-variety computer ATX power supply." Well, that is just what it is, with two differences: it has a proprietary Motorola wiring harness and it costs $300, versus about $50 for an ATX. Our experience is that the power supply is not quite up to the job and has to be replaced from time to time. We've also had one that caught fire. We considered jury rigging a "real" power supply, but the AIB/TRC boards apparently need 5VDC, which may be why the ATX-based power supply was used.
(Actually, we've gotten away from using Consolettes altogether. Most Consolettes are spec'd for use in console operations, and we've found it far simpler just to install a garden variety dash-mount mobile XTL to an E&M configured console channel card.)
If you do this, use Accessory Connector #2 Pins 1 (high) and 16 (low) for a two-wire tone connection to the Consolette. Also set or verify that TRC board S100-3 is set for ON (TRC control).
2) One thing I should have pointed out is to be careful of the Consolette power supply. When you open the case (an adventure in itself), you'll say to yourself, "Jeekers, that looks like a garden-variety computer ATX power supply." Well, that is just what it is, with two differences: it has a proprietary Motorola wiring harness and it costs $300, versus about $50 for an ATX. Our experience is that the power supply is not quite up to the job and has to be replaced from time to time. We've also had one that caught fire. We considered jury rigging a "real" power supply, but the AIB/TRC boards apparently need 5VDC, which may be why the ATX-based power supply was used.
(Actually, we've gotten away from using Consolettes altogether. Most Consolettes are spec'd for use in console operations, and we've found it far simpler just to install a garden variety dash-mount mobile XTL to an E&M configured console channel card.)
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