Motorola MTS2000 Model 1 - w/photos I programmed it I just have a couple questions

[Thinderik]

KG,
It's very curious. I'm not sure if I use the same PL for CH2 and it just happens to not be on a repeater.

To Clarify, That yellow post it note that was in my first post was the "information" given to me by my boss, I'm assuming given to him by the radio programming guy. I don't know if I made that clear throughout all of this.

 

[cmjonesinc]

Are your co workers using the same model radio by chance? If so you could just clone theirs to yours and save some confusion.

 

[Thinderik]

Everyone else uses Kenwoods. Maybe a couple other people use some off brands.

When I decided to get one for myself I chose the Motorola because it's what I see all my EMS/Medic/Police friends coming into the ER with. So basically bias lol.

 

[cmjonesinc]

Well it was worth a shot. Good choice on a Motorola though. I'm a little bias myself. You probably have seen it in your software or may know already, but if you buy anymore matching radios you can just clone the code plug to save some time. Not that programming a couple channels takes a long time, but it also removes the possibility of a typo.

 

[Thinderik]

CMJ,
I love the software interface of the MTS and if there is one thing I am prone to do it's a fricken Typo. Without a doubt.

I want to get 1 or 2 more of these MTS2k's H01RDD's of course now that I have one finding another on ebay is proving to be a pain in my A$$. I think I just got lucky with this one.

 

[ramal121]

Unless if I missed something, Ch 2 is 100 kHz different than the repeater output so it's a simplex channel and not a true talk around. If everyone else is set up with any kind of PL or DPL, they won't hear him with carrier squelch.

Yes, you oopsed the frequency on the talkaround channel.

Also you can leave channel 2 as CSQ but put the PL tone on transmit. Doubt other radios are CSQ and that way you are sure to reach them.

That post-it is as clear as mud. A tech could read between the lines and set up a simple repeater/talkaround set, but it is missing needed information for someone following instructions so don't feel bad.

 

[Thinderik]

I'll fix it when I get home tonight then. I'm learning a lot, so I'm happy.

 

[KG4INW]

Agreed, that post-it note is pretty vague. It tells you that channel two is not through a repeater but after it shows a duplex pair (that is 100 kHz different than channel 1).

How tricky would it be to meet with whomever programmed the Kenwoods? Or at least talk to them!

 

[Thinderik]

Is it possible that they would have one channel for Tx and one for Rx on that second channel but with no repeater? Or is that not possible?

I'll ask the Boss on Wednesday. From what I was told he spends a lot of time talking about how he's so good with radios but very little time proving it with his actions. I have this tingling feeling he'd be the kind of guy who would either be a jack off talking to. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[KG4INW]

No, it wouldn't make any sense to have split TX and RX frequencies without a repeater.

Well, good luck!

 

[Thinderik]

Ahhhhh I get it, I think. Because when your on a repeater system it takes my weak 464.xxx Tx signal grabs it boosts it then Tx's it as 469.xxx which is my radios Rx Freq.

If you split them and each radio was programmed like Ch 2 on that post it, we'd all be Tx and no one would hear Sh$%t.

...I think...

 

[KG4INW]

Other way around but yes! You TX at 469.xxx which is the repeater's input (RX) and then RX the repeater's output at 464.xxx (repeater TX).

You could have two radios programmed with split frequencies but they'd need to be the opposite of each other and only they'd work with each other. Radio 1 would TX on frequency A and RX on frequency B while Radio 2 would TX on frequency B and RX on frequency A. Convoluted and completely unnecessary while not using a repeater.

 

[mmckenna]

Unless if I missed something, Ch 2 is 100 kHz different than the repeater output so it's a simplex channel and not a true talk around. If everyone else is set up with any kind of PL or DPL, they won't hear him with carrier squelch.

Yeah, you are correct, I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention.

Thunderik,
Since the simplex channel is separate from the repeater channel, you won't have any issues with the repeater confusing things. Ignore what I said above.