Motorola XTS 5000 freq set for a trunking system?

[Cashanova48]

Hey all, Merry Christmas!

I was looking on good ol' scambay, when I came across a listing for a XTS 5000 Model 2, in really good condition with the band split of:
TX 806-824, RX 851-870
TX 794-806, RX 764-777

The model number of the unit is:
H18UCF9PW6AN

With a flashcode of:
509088-001686-4

My question is, if I would like to receive a local agency's P25 trunking system (Linn County, Iowa, On the SARA Network) using Non-Affiliate scan, would the radio have to have a band split that allowed it to "Transmit" on the trunking system. **I Do Not Attend On Transmitting on the system**, but does the radio need to think it can transmit on it? The county uses freqs from 851.225 up to 858.7625, and looking back at the band split, the radio is not capable of transmitting on those frequencies. I'm very new to trunking and don't want to get a unit that will not work for my applications. I would also like to use this unit while traveling to Anderson County, Tennessee, of which uses freqs from 769 up to 774. It would be ideal if the units didn't need to "Think" it could transmit on those frequencies, as then it would physically not be able to transmit on the systems, another bit of security to help me sleep at night.

Thanks for the help.

 

[mbnv992]

Not again . . .

 

[K2NEC]

Given that you have no idea what you are doing with trunking, get a scanner

A normal band plan for 800mhz is -45 split. Not sure what you're getting at with the "not capable of transmitting on those frequencies". The RX frequency is 851.225 so the TX frequency is 806.225.

 

[Cashanova48]

Given that you have no idea what you are doing with trunking, get a scanner

A normal band plan for 800mhz is -45 split. Not sure what you're getting at with the "not capable of transmitting on those frequencies". The RX frequency is 851.225 so the TX frequency is 806.225.

Thanks, I reckon that's a better better idea then dealing with an old LMR radio. Good to know it's -45. Thanks

 

[Asunakiyori]

Sara network shows as a phase II system.... im 90% sure an xts5k is not phase II soooo no?

 

[KD9RTX]

At first glance it looks like it's a phase II system. Possibly with some phase I support. The XTS 5k will only do phase I. Plus it looks like most, if not all, of the police talk groups are encrypted so doubly out of luck there.

 

[GTR8000]

100% sure. Get a scanner.

 

[Cashanova48]

Sara network shows as a phase II system.... im 90% sure an xts5k is not phase II soooo no?

Yeah, I'm 100 percent sure it won't to phase 2, but those county's use phase 1 talkgroups over the digital system. Too bad the cheaper phase two scanners don't do simulcast.

 

[ElroyJetson]

It's a standard 700/800 MHz bandsplit radio. They're all like that. No need to worry about the specific limits of the bandsplits, because that's the standard 700/800 public safety bandsplit arrangement. Every public safety 700/800 portable in exixtence has that bandsplit.

Get a scanner. That's not a Phase 2 compatible radio anyway. Wrong tool for the job but you might hear some Phase 1 talkgroups,
if you can keep the radio from ET PHONE HOME and getting your tail in a heap of trouble. And that's the hard part. The risky part.

 

[KD8RFT]

Here are the talkgroups for Linn County: SARA Network TG Category: Linn County

D=Phase 1 (FDMA) Unencrypted
DE= Phase 1 (FDMA) full time encrypted (You wont hear anything)
police are full time encrypted in Linn county
Fire id phase 1 unencrypted. You should be able to hear the fire calls with a P25 Phase 1 scanner.
The problem is the site is simulcast: SARA Network Site: Linn Co Simulcast
and that usually means problems monitoring unless you have a Uniden SDS100/200 or a unication G4/G5 pager set up as a scanner.

Anderson county is very similar with the only difference is that the county sheriff dispatch in unencrypted. Oak Ridge police and fire are encrypted.

There is no easy way to get a commerical radio to monitor a public safety system like a scanner. For 99% of the people out there, getting a scanner like a Uniden SDS100/200 is the way to go.

If you get a Uniden SDS100/200, its really easy to program both counties in and start listening to the unencrypted traffic.

 

[ryolsen8]

Yeah, I'm 100 percent sure it won't to phase 2, but those county's use phase 1 talkgroups over the digital system. Too bad the cheaper phase two scanners don't do simulcast.

Buy a Unication G4, G5, or a Uniden SDS100. All of your issues will be solved, and you won't risk affiliating.

 

[northstarfire0693]

Being a Motorola radio. Lets not forget all the other "steps" the OP will need to go through. Sys keys is a good start. Followed up by having knowledge on to set up the radio the correct way.

 

[northstarfire0693]

Hey all, Merry Christmas!

I was looking on good ol' scambay, when I came across a listing for a XTS 5000 Model 2, in really good condition with the band split of:
TX 806-824, RX 851-870
TX 794-806, RX 764-777

The model number of the unit is:
H18UCF9PW6AN

With a flashcode of:
509088-001686-4

My question is, if I would like to receive a local agency's P25 trunking system (Linn County, Iowa, On the SARA Network) using Non-Affiliate scan, would the radio have to have a band split that allowed it to "Transmit" on the trunking system. **I Do Not Attend On Transmitting on the system**, but does the radio need to think it can transmit on it? The county uses freqs from 851.225 up to 858.7625, and looking back at the band split, the radio is not capable of transmitting on those frequencies. I'm very new to trunking and don't want to get a unit that will not work for my applications. I would also like to use this unit while traveling to Anderson County, Tennessee, of which uses freqs from 769 up to 774. It would be ideal if the units didn't need to "Think" it could transmit on those frequencies, as then it would physically not be able to transmit on the systems, another bit of security to help me sleep at night.

Thanks for the help.

Its not as easy as getting the radio. CPS and programing cable are easy to come by. However, there are other steps you will need to go through to make it work. Plus, you will need to have the knowledge to properly set the radio up.

I'm not trying to beat you up, but you may want to look at other options

 

[Cashanova48]

Its not as easy as getting the radio. CPS and programing cable are easy to come by. However, there are other steps you will need to go through to make it work. Plus, you will need to have the knowledge to properly set the radio up.

I'm not trying to beat you up, but you may want to look at other options

Gotcha, yeah. I already got a unit in UHF, as well as CPS and a good cable. Seeing just how easy it is to affiliate in vedios and such, I feel like it definitely isn't the right way to go.