MSP Low Band

[Chris52]

Was just curious if at some point RR had any intentions of deleting the old MSP low band frequencies ? I think it’s safe to say they aren’t used anymore.

 

[u2brent]

They may not get much use these days, But certainly are kept as a backup. They shouldn't be deleted until they are confirmed to no longer be maintained as a backup. IMHO

 

[spanner]

I keep them loaded on my trips to #murderland, as u2 said, as a backup....

 

[atlong]

FIRST system is still not completely built out yet. As others have mentioned until they're officially decommissioned, they should stay. Example, Montgomery County Rockville MSP Barracks is not yet officially on FIRST, but they do use the MoCo TRS.

 

[ka3jjz]

It's very easy to mistakenly think that a MSP VHF lo channel is dead. That system is all simplex (making them harder to hear without a decent antenna), and they aren't chatty.

Mike

 

[Chris52]

Yeah I guess the barracks still have the base stations but it’s been a LONG time since I’ve seen them in a curser.

 

[riveter]

More than one central transmitter station have been removed from tower sites...

 

[Chris52]

FIRST system is still not completely built out yet. As others have mentioned until they're officially decommissioned, they should stay. Example, Montgomery County Rockville MSP Barracks is not yet officially on FIRST, but they do use the MoCo TRS.

Yes, but thats not a low band frequency or system lol

Southern Maryland is doing this as well all (800 systems) (Operating on the counties systems) What I can say is at Barrack T though the equipment still might be there it’s no longer in use and not on. There was an issue with interference with consoles a while back. During that time the low band radios and antennas were being yanked out of the cruisers and the powers that be said there was no need to fix it ending the days of the low band simulcasting there. I was bummed as a scanner enthusiast.

39.920 was my favorite (not many people knew about that one) ahhh the things you’d hear from the officers prior or after doing traffic stops or just talking to each other. A lot of them thought we’ll I’m not talking to the barrack so they and others can’t hear me. Wrong !

Montgomery County, MD (P16) Trunking System, Various, Maryland

Montgomery County, MD (P16) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

And it shouldn’t be too much longer until First is up in Montgomery County

 

[maus92]

Yes, but thats not a low band frequency or system lol

Southern Maryland is doing this as well all (800 systems) (Operating on the counties systems) What I can say is at Barrack T though the equipment still might be there it’s no longer in use and not on. There was an issue with interference with consoles a while back. During that time the low band radios and antennas were being yanked out of the cruisers and the powers that be said there was no need to fix it ending the days of the low band simulcasting there. I was bummed as a scanner enthusiast.

39.920 was my favorite (not many people knew about that one) ahhh the things you’d hear from the officers prior or after doing traffic stops or just talking to each other. A lot of them thought we’ll I’m not talking to the barrack so they and others can’t hear me. Wrong !

Montgomery County, MD (P16) Trunking System, Various, Maryland

Montgomery County, MD (P16) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

And it shouldn’t be too much longer until First is up in Montgomery County

Spring 2022 is the new go-live date, mostly due to backhaul issues.

 

[Dispatcher308]

ALL MSP LOW BAND IS GONE.

There is no infrastructure to support it, as all base stations have been removed from tower sites as previously stated in another thread and most vehicles the low band radios are gone and the 700 mobiles are in. All MSP barracks are either on MD FIRST or on the County trunked system that they are in.

 

[u2brent]

That would seem to be the definitive and final answer necessary to have them deprecated

 

[tvengr]

Are any of the high VHF frequencies, such as 155.19 barrack to barrack and 159.405 special tac assault team, still in use? What about the UHF executive protection frequencies?

 

[maus92]

Are any of the high VHF frequencies, such as 155.19 barrack to barrack and 159.405 special tac assault team, still in use? What about the UHF executive protection frequencies?

I would imagine there are non-trs frequencies still in use for special units, but the protection detail routinely uses FIRST when in Annapolis. One *could* check the FCC database to verify their license status.

 

[maus92]

Taking my own advice above, I browsed the FCC database and noticed that SHA, DNR, and MSP are still renewing their VHF licenses.

 

[WG3K]

ALL MSP LOW BAND IS GONE.

Would you submit an update to the database so this can get propagated out?

 

[WG3K]

Would you submit an update to the database so this can get propagated out?

I just made an update request for Calvert County and it seems that dtscho wants to keep those frequencies in the database as backups. I'm hoping that page gets a complete makeover since many of the county systems listed are no longer in service and FiRST isn't even listed.

 

[maus92]

I just made an update request for Calvert County and it seems that dtscho wants to keep those frequencies in the database as backups. I'm hoping that page gets a complete makeover since many of the county systems listed are no longer in service and FiRST isn't even listed.

Is the FIRST Calvert site carrying live traffic yet? If it is, it should be in the listing for Calvert County.

 

[WG3K]

Is the FIRST Calvert site carrying live traffic yet? If it is, it should be in the listing for Calvert County.

I'm not sure; I'll start listening out for the Calvert Simulcast. MSP is on Calvert's new P25 TRS, though, and not the off-the-air P16 system as what is listed on the MSP page.