MURS doesn't allow repeaters
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MURS as a disaster communications solution
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MURS doesn't allow repeaters
KB7MIB
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There is at least one documented case, where someone came up on a (San Diego County, I believe) Sheriff's channel, asked for emergency assistance, got it, and was promptly arrested for using one of their channels without authorization afterwards.
bill4long said:
There is at least one documented case, where someone came up on a (San Diego County, I believe) Sheriff's channel, asked for emergency assistance, got it, and was promptly arrested for using one of their channels without authorization afterwards.
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If you want to program in public safety channels so you can call for help in a life-or-death emergency, go for it. Just be ready to explain to them, a prosecuting attorney, a judge, and the FCC why you had to do that afterwards.
If you want to program in public safety channels so you can call for help in a life-or-death emergency, go for it. Just be ready to explain to them, a prosecuting attorney, a judge, and the FCC why you had to do that afterwards.
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And the FCC may also want to examine your radio(s), and they may take issue with MURS channels being programmed into a radio that isn't Part 95 certified, if that's what you're using. So, then, you've got two issues to deal with.
And the FCC may also want to examine your radio(s), and they may take issue with MURS channels being programmed into a radio that isn't Part 95 certified, if that's what you're using. So, then, you've got two issues to deal with.
bill4long
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What was the nature of the emergency?
KB7MIB
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Injured hiker who needed medical attention, IIRC
A Ham had a mutual-aid channel or some such that was monitored by the SO programmed into his HT. He called for help, help responded for the hiker, and the Ham was arrested. I don't recall the outcome.
Injured hiker who needed medical attention, IIRC
A Ham had a mutual-aid channel or some such that was monitored by the SO programmed into his HT. He called for help, help responded for the hiker, and the Ham was arrested. I don't recall the outcome.
KB7MIB
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In my "FCC Rule Book, 13th Edition" it even says in the chapter on emergency communications, to be ready to explain to the authorities and the FCC why you used a frequency you weren't authorized on, and why you used a non-certified radio to do it...
In my "FCC Rule Book, 13th Edition" it even says in the chapter on emergency communications, to be ready to explain to the authorities and the FCC why you used a frequency you weren't authorized on, and why you used a non-certified radio to do it...
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even if it's a life-or-death emergency. So, like I said, if someone wants to modify, and then program police channels into their radio, be ready to explain yourself afterwards. Because the police and the FCC are not going to be happy that you did so.
even if it's a life-or-death emergency. So, like I said, if someone wants to modify, and then program police channels into their radio, be ready to explain yourself afterwards. Because the police and the FCC are not going to be happy that you did so.
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DaveNF2G
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Not to mention that programming your radio in advance to transmit on frequencies for which you are not licensed or authorized is illegal. You don't have to transmit to break the law.
Like Dave mentioned, likely in any scenario, your looking at trouble. Now I don't do any sort of law stuff, but I would assume, the simple act of having the frequencies in the radio setup for transmit could be considered intent.
KSDeputy
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I read that the P 1225 is no longer made. The new digital Motorola DTR 410 portable is pretty awesome. The Motorola CP 200 sounds good two. I found both at Motorola Radios Authorized Motorola Two Way Radio Dealer Virginia. They many other models for sale, as well. My neighbor is close enough for FRS, but I would like a radio with encryption if I can afford it.
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W9NES
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Part 95 covers CB rules and regulations, Not MURS.
nd5y
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SteveC0625
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Multi-Use Radio Service (MURS) | FCC.gov
eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations
All of the resources and searches of the FCC state otherwise. 47 CFR Part 95 Sub Part J is the specific section that covers MURS.
The MURS frequencies are specifically designated in 95.632 under Sub Part E Technical Regulations.
walruspwaterhead
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Well i know alot of you like to play radio police but if i was in prepper mode, i plan on using murs as one of the main channels for communication within our group. And if i am going a little farther away i would not hesitate you up my power to 5 watts. as i have the murs freq programmed into all my vhf radios ( 9 so far). Also if i had someone who needed serious medical help and all i had was a ham radio, i would use a local repeater to use even though i am not currently licensed. I am sure all of you would as well in an emergency. So i do not see why everyone has to harp on radio policing instead of saying the rules say this but....... i got an idea that may help, instead of just saying no you cant do that and i am gonna measure your antenna height and you are gonna be in big trouble mister.
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In a SHTF scenario, no one is going to be around to enforce ANY rules/regulations/laws.
Short of that, if you use a PS frequency to call for help, on a radio that isn't certified for that frequency, you just may have to explain yourself afterwards.
In a SHTF scenario, no one is going to be around to enforce ANY rules/regulations/laws.
Short of that, if you use a PS frequency to call for help, on a radio that isn't certified for that frequency, you just may have to explain yourself afterwards.
KB7MIB
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SHTF = Anarchy, complete and total societal breakdown. Apocalypse. Extinction Level Event.
Anything short of that, play by the rules, in the off chance that the rules will actually be enforced, however unlikely you happen to think it will.
SHTF = Anarchy, complete and total societal breakdown. Apocalypse. Extinction Level Event.
Anything short of that, play by the rules, in the off chance that the rules will actually be enforced, however unlikely you happen to think it will.
SteveC0625
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Here's a novel concept...
Join your local volunteer fire department or ambulance squad and get to use a real public safety radio on real public safety channels all the time. No need to wait for the big one. Do a good job and they'll even issue you a two-way.
Or....
Get your ham ticket and operate all the time. Join a RACES team and be an actual part of the support crew when there is a major emergency.
Instead of trying to turn MURS into something it was never intended to be, come on out and really participate in emergency services.
DJ11DLN
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Extremely well said.
bill4long
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I would have MURS, GMRS, FRS, and get a ham license (a Tech license, easy schmeasy, and moron can do it) and cover all the bases. That's what I have done (except I've been a ham extra class for 30 years, but that's not necessary.)
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