MURS is for Business Users Only!

[gewecke]

Nice to know, but I wish the wal martians here would take the hint, since csq. is all they use. Even menards and F&F are implementing a tone for their portables.
The company I work for uses closed network phones which resemble 1990 cell phones instead of talkies, but do use frs at times of peak sales.

73,
n9zas

 

[bill4long]

Apparently, the Walmart in the next town over does not use CTCSS. Which I find humorous.

 

[Darth_vader]

"The company I work for uses closed network phones which resemble 1990 cell phones instead of talkies"

The Fred Meyer store on the other side of the I-205 offramp from the Wallyworld I listed above has those. The newer Wal-Mart on the lower east side (Wikimapia - Let's describe the whole world!) also uses them.

Don't know which protocol they use; probably DECT or 802-11.

 

[bill4long]

That's what the man sez ... more than once. And he's the president.

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He's dead wrong.

95.1307 Permissible communications.

(a) MURS stations may transmit voice or data signals as permitted in this subpart.

(b) A MURS station may transmit any emission type listed in § 95.631(j) of this chapter.

(c) MURS frequencies may be used for remote control and telemetering functions. MURS transmitters may not be operated in the continuous carrier transmit mode.

(d) MURS users shall take reasonable precautions to avoid causing harmful interference. This includes monitoring the transmitting frequency for communications in progress and such other measures as may be necessary to minimize the potential for causing interference.

 

[rapidcharger]

Why is everyone so obsessed with Walmart using murs?

They recognized (A long time ago apparently) that the licensing is an unnecessary expense. Murs serves their needs and the radios are effective for covering a 150-250,000 single story footprint. When the radios grow legs and walk off or gets run over by a forklift, it's inexpensive to replace them. They arrive on a truck from their distribution center I'm sure. No need to go to a dealer for programming, deal with silly mandates, renewals, page after page of station legal requirements including identifying their station. If only our governments were as sensible. Maybe they don't need coded squelch because there's nobody else in range. Or maybe they enjoy sharing the channel. Or maybe they don't want to talk the time to figure out how to enable that.

 

[bill4long]

There's nothing wrong with Walmart using MURS. Often the problem is, according to many reports (including personal experience), they often don't use tone squelch, and they like to harangue others users on the channels, claiming it's "our channel", etc. No big deal to me.

 

[WB4CS]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but MURS is a shared service meaning a channel is first-come, first-serve. Since it's widely known that Wal-Mart uses MURS, and if I'm not mistaken don't most of them use the same channel, shouldn't other MURS users simply either steer clear of that channel or move to another channel when in range of Wal-Mart?

True, no one owns a frequency. Wal-Mart doesn't, and other MURS user's don't. Since Wal-Mart users are stationary, if you drive up to a Wal-Mart and the channel is in use don't they have every right to complain? If you picked a channel and someone else was using that channel wouldn't 't it make sense to move to another channel?

I'm with Rapid on this one, I don't see what the big deal is with Wal-Mart using MURS and why people complain about it.

 

[KR7CQ]

Around my old home, right between two Walmarts a little over a mile apart, I heard Walmart employees scolding employees from the other Walmart for "using their frequency", when they both ran the same tone. After a few years, one Walmart switched tones. Now they simply interfere with each other without hearing each other, so that some people have to repeat themselves at times when someone from the other Walmart is talking. They probably have a "busy" light showing and wonder what the heck it means since they don't hear the other Walmart.

On a related note, I once had a guy tell me he took his radio to Walmart when they were busy, so that he could call for "customer assistance" in his area if he needed it. I know it's probably harmful interference, but it still made me chuckle.

 

[rapidcharger]

they often don't use tone squelch, and they like to harangue others users on the channels, claiming it's "our channel", etc. No big deal to me.

It's been a while since I read part 95 but I don't see anything in the rules for murs that says you have to use coded squelch. If they like not being able to isolate the comms on a busy channel, that's their prerogative.

And would they by any chance say "It's our channel" when someone who misunderstands the idea behind murs gets in there and goes "Breaker Breaker Murs channel 1. Breaker Murs channel 1. You got your ears on Walmart? You got the Red Dog on aisle 7, C'mmmon." ?

Around my old home, right between two Walmarts a little over a mile apart, I heard Walmart employees scolding employees from the other Walmart for "using their frequency", when they both ran the same tone. After a few years, one Walmart switched tones. Now they simply interfere with each other without hearing each other, so that some people have to repeat themselves at times when someone from the other Walmart is talking. They probably have a "busy" light showing and wonder what the heck it means since they don't hear the other Walmart.

On a related note, I once had a guy tell me he took his radio to Walmart when they were busy, so that he could call for "customer assistance" in his area if he needed it. I know it's probably harmful interference, but it still made me chuckle.

Perfectly legal actually. Now if someone were intentionally jamming the channel, that would be illegal. That "guy" was authorized to use the channel.

As for the first paragraph, it's like any other tool or store fixture. Training someone how to use it will definitely pay off. Of course in a high turnover environment like that, I doubt "using the walkie talkie" is covered in the new employee orientation. They're too busy explaining how to be good little robots and what to do when you see someone shoplift something.

 

[jhooten]

Here it was Walmart and the Taco Bell drive through. When the Taco Bell was shut down for the remodel a new system was installed on UHF.

 

[KR7CQ]

Here it was Walmart and the Taco Bell drive through. When the Taco Bell was shut down for the remodel a new system was installed on UHF.

Now that could present some funny moments.

 

[k3cfc]

Why is everyone so obsessed with Walmart using murs?

They recognized (A long time ago apparently) that the licensing is an unnecessary expense. Murs serves their needs and the radios are effective for covering a 150-250,000 single story footprint. When the radios grow legs and walk off or gets run over by a forklift, it's inexpensive to replace them. They arrive on a truck from their distribution center I'm sure. No need to go to a dealer for programming, deal with silly mandates, renewals, page after page of station legal requirements including identifying their station. If only our governments were as sensible. Maybe they don't need coded squelch because there's nobody else in range. Or maybe they enjoy sharing the channel. Or maybe they don't want to talk the time to figure out how to enable that.

Why is everyone so obsessed with Walmart using murs?
Because they have absolutely nothing else better to do. i said it before and ill say it again... I believe in live and let live. I have plenty of frequencies to chat on without messing with other services.

K3CFC

 

[bill4long]

It's been a while since I read part 95 but I don't see anything in the rules for murs that says you have to use coded squelch.

I didn't say otherwise.

If they like not being able to isolate the comms on a busy channel, that's their prerogative.

Correct. But, as the rules say, they are obligated to put up with interference from other stations. Yet, it is Walmart staff that often complain, not the other way around. If Walmart wants an interference-free private channel, they can easily obtain one from the FCC. Otherwise, they are obliged to put up with other users and not harass other users, which is patently illegal.

And would they by any chance say "It's our channel" when someone who misunderstands the idea behind murs gets in there and goes "Breaker Breaker Murs channel 1. Breaker Murs channel 1. You got your ears on Walmart? You got the Red Dog on aisle 7, C'mmmon." ?

Huh?

 

[Darth_vader]

Yeah, "huh?" indeed.

<hijack> Even the CBers rarely talk like that on the air these days. Yes, CB jargon is still occasionally used but not to nearly the extent the hamhocks like to stereotype it as. An exchange like that, on CB or on MURS yet, would either (1) go ignored or (2) get the speaker called out as an idiot. But the haters will keep on hating, and that likely won't stop them from amplifying anything and everything negative they can contrive. Just saying. </hijack>

 

[KR7CQ]

Yeah, "huh?" indeed.

<hijack> Even the CBers rarely talk like that on the air these days. Yes, CB jargon is still occasionally used but not to nearly the extent the hamhocks like to stereotype it as. An exchange like that, on CB or on MURS yet, would either (1) go ignored or (2) get the speaker called out as an idiot. But the haters will keep on hating, and that likely won't stop them from amplifying anything and everything negative they can contrive. Just saying. </hijack>

That talk reminds me of the 70s.

 

[rapidcharger]

My point is if someone gets on there wanting to strike up a conversation with walmart associates then it's not hard to understand why they are going to get annoyed and tell you to get off their channel.

And if it is hard for you to understand that, you'll just have to either take my word for it or get a job at walmart. Then you'll understand.

 

[bill4long]

Yeah, "huh?" indeed.

<hijack> Even the CBers rarely talk like that on the air these days. Yes, CB jargon is still occasionally used but not to nearly the extent the hamhocks like to stereotype it as. An exchange like that, on CB or on MURS yet, would either (1) go ignored or (2) get the speaker called out as an idiot. But the haters will keep on hating, and that likely won't stop them from amplifying anything and everything negative they can contrive. Just saying. </hijack>

I haven't so much as seen a CB since 1979.

I've never heard anything like that on MURS.

So your point escapes me.

 

[jhooten]

Just finished putting the CB in the new truck. Need to make a face plate for the console so the Rat shack MURS Mobile can go in next to it. Then rig up a patch and connect .6 to channel 19 and leave it running while I'm in the store.

 

[KB7MIB]

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Wait for it...

 

[SCPD]

Just finished putting the CB in the new truck. Need to make a face plate for the console so the Rat shack MURS Mobile can go in next to it. Then rig up a patch and connect .6 to channel 19 and leave it running while I'm in the store.

To funny!!!......................