muskingum co SO

[mtindor]

It appears that with a recently issued FCC License that Muskingum County will have 4-5 sites for MARCS. Zanesville, Philo, Dresden, South Zanesville.
We just need to obtain Site IDs for them.

Agreed. Two licenses cover Muskingum MARCS. South Zanesville is actually Zanesville (which was my error in my comment to you).

WPQF785
WQHM719

(if anyone sees 860.xxxx freqs at any of those sites in the licenses, those are MARCS DATANET conventional)

Existing site IDs are gleaned from current RRDB info


457 Zanesville
(needs one freq added to RRDB)

866.2875 WPQF785
867.7375 WPQF785
868.2000 WPQF785
868.4375 WQHM719

443 Bloomfield

866.4750 WPQF785
866.9250 WPQF785
867.2000 WPQF785

??? Dresden
(site needs added to RRDB, needs site ID)

866.7500 WQHM719
867.2250 WQHM719
867.8625 WQHM719
868.3875 WQHM719

499 Philo
(needs site ID, if 499 is just temporary)

866.7750 WQHM719
867.2750 WQHM719
868.1250 WQHM719
868.6000 WQHM719

As was already mentioned by Mark, the new sites (and probably all sites) need monitored with a trunking program to determine the site IDs, all CCs, and site neighbors.

Not sure I can do it this weekend, but I may be able to sneak out tomorrow and give it a whirl - that's a road trip for me though.

Mike

 

[phask]

You're welcome to park in my driveway

I'm 5 miles from Dresden site on Dutch Hill - that's a cell tower they are using, unless they put up another one.

What software does this? I have BCD996t.


I should be able to get any site in the county.

 

[mtindor]

You're welcome to park in my driveway

I'm 5 miles from Dresden site on Dutch Hill - that's a cell tower they are using, unless they put up another one.

What software does this? I have BCD996t.


I should be able to get any site in the county.

I'll keep that in mind rofl - as if I knew where Dutch Hill is

Unitrunker will do this, as will many other trunking programs. But it requires audio from a discriminator tap inside your scanner. However, with that said, I can decode (at about 60% decode - which is enough for you to get all the needed data) by simply hooking up my headphone jack on a bcd996t to the mic-in on my sound card, fire up Unitrunker and configure it.

If you're interested in trying out Unitrunker and you have a standard audio cable to go from your headphone jack to your mic-in or audio-in on your sound card, then you can give it a try.

Unitrunker info can be found in the RR Wiki - Unitrunker

With that said, you're BCD996T itself will give information such as the primary control channel and site ID.

For each of those sites that doesn't have a frequency highlighted in Red, if you think you can hear them plug each of the frequencies into your scanner conventionally and then report back to us which one has control channel data rumbling on it. That'll be the main CC that FPO703 will list in the RRDB.

As for site ID, you can get that information straight from the BCD996T as well.

Page 95 (I think) of the manual tells you how to Edit a Custom Search Range. if you enter in a search range from 866.0000 - 869.0000 and you "Set CC-Only" so that it will search out Motorola contorl channels, and then start a search - when it stops on a motorola control channel it will display the system ID and site ID . If you do this, you'll probably find control channels for various motorola sites in the area (including some MARCS). Then you can match what you find up with what the RRDB needs and FPO703 can add the appropriate red CC for the particular site and give it a valid site ID.

Mike

 

[mtindor]

I should be able to get any site in the county.

Then you be da man for the job! I elect you... and I'll stay home instead of driving an hour+ heh.

If you have a good position on a high hill like that, you could definitely get the low-down.

Mike

 

[phask]

Easily hearing Dresden, Philo and always have heard Cloverdale and ZZV.

I mainly use a couple laptops - no sound card input except Mic. and usually it doesn't work for recording audio, so etrunker probably wouldn't either.


Dutch Hil - that site has a lot of altitude and should cover into Coshocton and East Licking counties as well as Northern Muskingum.

Haven't done any discriminator taps since pro 2006 and Bill Cheek days

 

[mtindor]

Easily hearing Dresden, Philo and always have heard Cloverdale and ZZV.

I mainly use a couple laptops - no sound card input except Mic. and usually it doesn't work for recording audio, so etrunker probably wouldn't either.


Dutch Hil - that site has a lot of altitude and should cover into Coshocton and East Licking counties as well as Northern Muskingum.

Haven't done any discriminator taps since pro 2006 and Bill Cheek days

I will say the 996 is very very easy to tap (the tap point is out in the open) if you should ever be inclined. Bill Cheek was a helluva guy - sure made it fun for a lot of us with all of his mods.

Any chance you can attempt to get the site IDs of Dresden and Philo, as well as tell us the frequency of the control channel that you found?

For the site ID, if you stop and monitor ZZV you'll see a number '39' on your display for the site ID and 6F10 for the system. The site ID listed on RR is determined in this way.

If the system ID is 6F10, the site ID in RRDB begins with a '4'. The '39' on your display for ZZV gets converted - (3 * 16) + (9 * 1) = 57. So the site ID in RRDB for Zanesville is 457. So you'll need to get the site ID that is displayed for Dresden and Philo. You can convert them or not, just specify whether you converted it or not when you submit it.

You can submit them into the RRDB and FPO703 can add em. Submission link is:

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/submit/?sid=901

Thanks,

Mike

 

[mtindor]

BTW, if you already knew how to determine the site ID, etc. and already knew how to submit to RR, please forgive. You may have been the one to submit the current ZZV stuff, etc, I don't know. I just figured I'd pass along the info if you didn't know

Mike

 

[phask]

I will say the 996 is very very easy to tap (the tap point is out in the open) if you should ever be inclined. Bill Cheek was a helluva guy - sure made it fun for a lot of us with all of his mods.

Any chance you can attempt to get the site IDs of Dresden and Philo, as well as tell us the frequency of the control channel that you found?

For the site ID, if you stop and monitor ZZV you'll see a number '39' on your display for the site ID and 6F10 for the system. The site ID listed on RR is determined in this way.

If the system ID is 6F10, the site ID in RRDB begins with a '4'. The '39' on your display for ZZV gets converted - (3 * 16) + (9 * 1) = 57. So the site ID in RRDB for Zanesville is 457. So you'll need to get the site ID that is displayed for Dresden and Philo. You can convert them or not, just specify whether you converted it or not when you submit it.

You can submit them into the RRDB and FPO703 can add em. Submission link is:

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/submit/?sid=901

Thanks,

Mike

Dresden on 868.3875
6f10H-0023

zanesville I'm seeing 6F10h-0057
868.200
- none are converted -
Not getting ANYTHING on Bloomfield or Philo right now - either conditions suck, or it's down.

 

[SLWilson]

That question...

What is the site number?

There were a few questions along those lines over on the MARCS Yahoo group. No one there seemd to know the site number. Not even Paul yet....But, it looks like some of the above posters have it figured out now....

Steve/KB8FAR

 

[mtindor]

Dresden on 868.3875
6f10H-0023

zanesville I'm seeing 6F10h-0057
868.200
- none are converted -
Not getting ANYTHING on Bloomfield or Philo right now - either conditions suck, or it's down.

Good job on the trunk sleuthing Thanks. Always nice to see when people update the DB for all of our benefits. I guess I was wrong about needing to convert - I've only been without a 996 for 6 or 7 months and I've already forgotten how it displays that info. I need to convert those in my PSR.

That's two down. Bucko had gotten the CC for Philo, so maybe he'll be able to get the site ID as well. I think info for Bloomfield is already there, so it's probably correct unless you discover otherwise in your scanning.

I think the one listed as 497 S. Zanesville is likely not a separate site - that single frequency likely belongs in the 457 Zanesville site. So don't be surprised if you don't find anything there.

 

[mtindor]

Not getting ANYTHING on Bloomfield or Philo right now - either conditions suck, or it's down.

I was wrong about converting - no need to on the 996.

As for Philo, did you try all the Philo frequencies or did you just try the listed CC? Because it is possible that there is more than one CC there and that it's on one of the other CCs. If you haven't plugged all Philo freqs in, give it a try with each freq. I don't know where Philo is from you, you very well could be right about just being out of range.

Depending on where I walk around on the 2nd floor of my house, I can pick up anywhere from 7 to 13+ CCs.... I can move an inch and go from a near full quiet signal to nothing.

Mike

 

[mtindor]

Guys and gals,

There has been a couple submissions to the DB related to Muskingum Co Sheriff. For those of you who monitor Muskingum Co, it would be helpful if you would provide your input with regard to MCSO's continued use [or not] of their VHF low-band and VHF-Hi frequencies..

Has anybody heard activity on the Muskingum Co S.O. VHF-Low and VHF-Hi frequencies in the past six months? Does anybody know [for sure] whether the low band and/or high band VHF radios are still installed in vehicles?

See Muskingum County, Ohio (OH) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Thanks

Mike

 

[ibagli]

I was just there yesterday, and I heard one transmission on 154.875. Everything else was on MARCS.

 

[mtindor]

I was just there yesterday, and I heard one transmission on 154.875. Everything else was on MARCS.

Thank you. I appreciate that. At least one other listener of Muskingum traffic had told me right after that post pretty much what you did - with the exception that I asked "what frequencies have you heard traffic on in the past six months?" - and I was told that very rare traffic [but for sure MCSO traffic] had been heard on a few of the low band freqs that still exist in the database. I then tagged some freqs and removed one or two freqs that had expired licenses when I was told that nothing had been heard on those freqs for a few years.

I left the remaining low band freqs in there based upon site policy. Once somebody out that way can report definitely that MCSO has totally abandoned low band radios (i.e. they no longer exist in the vehicles) then I imagine those remaining low band freqs would be removed.

As for VHF, who knows when those would get removed - I imagine an agency with a lot of VHF radios probably wouldn't totally abandon them - They might not fix those radios when they break in vehicles and may instead remove them, but I wouldn't imagine they would purposefully remove VHF radios in working order unless it was somehow worth their while. There sure are a lot of VHF freqs for MCSO.

Mike