National Guard and the LA County Wildfires

[ladn]

What radio system are the National Guard troops using? I haven't seen any decent photos of individuals with radios.
Obviously, we're SOL if they are using RICS, but I haven't heard any out of the ordinary callsigns on the fire frequencies either.

I also programmed a number of 30-40 MHz National Guard frequencies and a couple VHF highband, and haven't heard anything.

 

[Markb]

How about the Intra-Squad radio frequencies or others in the upper 300MHz?

 

[prcguy]

Here is a picture from the Altadena area within the last few days. Looks like an LMR radio like Motorola but hard to see any fine detail. I've seen other pictures with the typical 9ft multiband whip on HUMVEEs and one pic that showed a few portable radios in the cab of a HUMVEE that were very long a fat looking like VHF lo band.

 

[ChicagoRadio736]

Here is a picture from the Altadena area within the last few days. Looks like an LMR radio like Motorola but hard to see any fine detail. I've seen other pictures with the typical 9ft multiband whip on HUMVEEs and one pic that showed a few portable radios in the cab of a HUMVEE that were very long a fat looking like VHF lo band.

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Thats a Motorola XTS5000 he has. From the look of the antenna it's on 700/800Mhz

 

[bmendez]

Check the federal band

 

[prcguy]

Thats a Motorola XTS5000 he has. From the look of the antenna it's on 700/800Mhz

Maybe, but maybe not. I enlarged the picture and the front of the radio around the speaker area protrudes outward and is square shaped where the XTS5000 speaker area is more flush with the case. The knobs are similar. The antenna does not look VHF but a UHF and 700/800 antenna for XTS is similar with the 700/800 being about an inch longer.

My question would be is this a CA national guard radio or supplied by someone on scene? The picture above was cropped and the original showed LA County Sheriff next to the National Guard guys. Both LA County Sheriff and LAPD used to have XTX5000 radios, so are these loaners or owned by the National Guard? If National Guard what band and what frequencies? I've seen National Guard on VHF low band and they have some VHF frequencies but not UHF and especially 700/800.

 

[Markb]

NG units I have worked with used XTS5000's. They were on a freq in the 399 MHz range, IIRC. Hard to say from one picture whose radio that is. It's probably more likely that most of the NG personnel are using NG radios and the higher-ranking supervision may have NG and RICS/county radios. That's my guess anyway.

 

[prcguy]

NG units I have worked with used XTS5000's. They were on a freq in the 399 MHz range, IIRC. Hard to say from one picture whose radio that is. It's probably more likely that most of the NG personnel are using NG radios and the higher-ranking supervision may have NG and RICS/county radios. That's my guess anyway.

Could be the US Army Inter Squad Radio freqs and here is a list. Would be nice if someone in the affected areas could scan these as I'm a little too far away.

• Channel 1 - 396.875 MHz
• Channel 2 - 397.125 MHz
• Channel 3 - 397.175 MHz
• Channel 4 - 397.375 MHz
• Channel 5 - 397.425 MHz
• Channel 6 - 397.475 MHz
• Channel 7 - 397.550 MHz
• Channel 8 - 397.950 MHz
• Channel 9 - 398.050 MHz
• Channel 10 - 399.425 MHz
• Channel 11 - 399.475 MHz
• Channel 12 - 399.725 MHz
• Channel 13 - 399.925 MHz
• Channel 14 - 399.975 MHz

I think that's Mark I used to work with in the late 90s at CBC. If so howdy! And no public posting of my name or call......

 

[norcalscan]

CalGuard can be just about anywhere in these local disaster assistance situations.
Whose radios?

• their own VHF radios with FPP or pre-programmed (typically limited to CALAWx, VLAWx, VSAR16, CALCORD, or a VTAC)
• agency cache radios, could be on anything the host agency has preprogrammed in
• state cache radios, APX8000's all band

What resources?

• Guard Channels, requiring traffic to be passed at the ICP/agency-rep/liaison level between CalGuard and LE resources.
• VHF CALAWx, VLAWx, VSAR16, CALCORD, VTACx to interface directly with local law
• VHF VTACx to interface with any interop system setup (a vtac repeater or audio patch/gateway into other systems or bands), providing direct access to law resources.
• Agency channels with a tactical callsign - again direct access to law
• CRIS, either via cache radios or the CMD might have their own access and TGID's into CRIS, being a state "agency" of sorts. Then who knows what patches can be made between CMD and mutual aid TGID's and/or gateways that drop out to conventional channels locally near the incident, or what. (haha, I know, this is very unlikely with the skillset and backwards thinking of most of our state comm folks. Easy to dream up complex solutions when no political or technical or training or financial boundaries exist. )

edit: also not every person would have a law radio, there might be one or two per deployed squad/group and then they use internal commsa/ISR to talk amongst themselves

 

[Markb]

Not ringing a bell.....

 

[Markb]

I think that's Mark I used to work with in the late 90s at CBC. If so howdy! And no public posting of my name or call......

Not ringing a bell.....

 

[ScannerDude244]

I saw some youtube video and saw some of them had APX's. but could of been a loan out