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Great site ....you the man ....thanks for the post
getting off on a tanget here so last thing on that topic... you can practice decoding digital modes from the websdr as well with proper signal routing on you pc...

But thats all for another thread. There are plenty of threads on RR redarding that stuff. I recommend doing some research if you haven't already.
 

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(b) FREQUENCY GUIDE - The frequency guides are designed to optimize air/
ground communications.
Primary HFGCS Frequencies 24 Hours 8992 and 11175
Back up HFGCS Frequencies Day 13200 15016
Back up HFGCS Frequencies Night 4724 6739
TIME (2)
DISTANCE (1)
200-750 NM 750-1500 NM More than 1500 NM
0000L 4724 6712-6739-8992 6712-6739-8992-11175
0400L 4724 4724-6712-6739 6712-6739-8992
0800L 4724-6712-6739 6712-6739-8992-11175 11175-13200-15016
1200L 4724-6712-6739 8992-11175-13200 13200-15016
1600L 4724-6712-6739 8992-11175-13200 13200-15016
2000L 4724-6712-6739 6712-6739-8992-11175 11175-13200-15016
1. When less than 200 NM any frequency may be used.
2. Local time at ground station.
 

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FREQUENCIES - SUMMER (Apr-Sep)
STATION 4724 6712 6739 8992 11175 13200 15016
Andrews 0500-1330Z 0300-1600Z 24 hours 24 hours 1330-0500Z 1600-0300Z
Ascension 2300-0700Z 2200-0900Z 24 hours 24 hours 0700-2300Z 0900-2200Z
Croughton 2300-0600Z 2100-0800Z 24 hours 24 hours 0600-2300Z 0800-210 0Z
Diego
Garcia
1400-0100Z 1200-0200Z 24 hours 24 hours 0100-1400Z 0200-1200Z
Elmendorf 0600-1500Z 0400-1700Z 24 hours 24 hours 1500-0600Z 1700-0400Z
Guam 1300-2200Z 1100-2400Z 24 hours 24 hours 2200-1300Z 2400-1100Z
Hawaii 0800-1700Z 0700-1800Z 24 hours 24 hours 1700-0800Z 1800-0700Z
Lajes 2200-0800Z 2000-1200Z 24 hours 24 hours 0800-2200Z 1200-2000Z
Offutt 0400-1330Z 0200-1700Z 24 hours 24 hours 1330-0400Z 1700-0200Z
Puerto Rico 0400-1200Z 0100-1400Z 24 hours 24 hours 1200-0400Z 1400-0100Z
Sigonella 2200-0530Z 1900-0900Z 24 hours 24 hours 0530-2200Z 0900-1900Z
West Coast 0600-1400Z 0300-1800Z 24 hours 24 hours 1400-0600Z 1800-0300Z
Yokota 1300-2200Z 1100-2200Z 24 hours 24 hours 2200-1300Z 2200-1100Z
 

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FREQUENCIES - WINTER (Oct-Mar)
STATION 4724 6712 6739 8992 11175 13200 15016
Andrews 2400-1200Z 2200-1400Z 24 hours 24 hours 1200-2400Z 1400-2200Z
Ascension 2200-0800Z 2100-1000Z 24 hours 24 hours 0800-2200Z 1000-2100Z
Croughton 1800-0600Z 1700-0900Z 24 hours 24 hours 0600-1800Z 0900-1700Z
Diego
Garcia
1600-2300Z 1400-0200Z 24 hours 24 hours 2300Z-1600Z 0200-1400Z
Elmendorf 0330-1630Z 0200-1800Z 24 hours 24 hours 1630-0330Z 1800-0200Z
Guam 1300-2030Z 0800-2200Z 24 hours 24 hours 2030-1300Z 2200-0800Z
Hawaii 0700-1600Z 0400-1800Z 24 hours 24 hours 1600-0700Z 1800-0400Z
Lajes 1800-0730Z 1700-0900Z 24 hours 24 hours 0730-1800Z 0900-1700Z
Offutt 0030-1330Z 2300-1400Z 24 hours 24 hours 1330-0030Z 1400-2300Z
Puerto Rico 0100-1100Z 2300-1200Z 24 hours 24 hours 1100-0100Z 1200-2300Z
Sigonella 1700-0500Z 1600-0800Z 24 hours 24 hours 0500-1700Z 0800-1600Z
West Coast 0130-1400Z 0030-1500Z 24 hours 24 hours 1400-0130Z 1500-0030Z
Yokota 0900-2100Z 0800-2200Z 24 hours 24 hours 2100-0900Z 2200-0800Z
 

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Had Misty 51 (probable 20FW/55FS F-16) transiting the area at FL280 this morning and popped up on a new one 269.425 MHz (nationwide ATC assignment), probable unid ARTCC.

Another new one to watch. ;-)
 

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Someone should be listening for arrivals in the Fayetteville area. Got one of the unknown hex codes AE0440 seeming to head that way. Looked to have come out of Greenville, SC- maybe the Lockheed facility. Altitude and speed are consistent with a helicopter. 8900ft 155-170kts
 

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Someone should be listening for arrivals in the Fayetteville area. Got one of the unknown hex codes AE0440 seeming to head that way. Looked to have come out of Greenville, SC- maybe the Lockheed facility. Altitude and speed are consistent with a helicopter. 8900ft 155-170kts
Interesting. This hex has been seen in Europe on my box in Btown, FH's box in VA. There was even a call in the Mode-S of Thor and that call was also used by hex code AE0441.

One theory I saw theorized a CBP aircraft. I say probably not in if in Europe, but that could have beena hijacked hex (sorta like that term). ;-)

Anyway worth watching AE0440 and AE0441.


Thanks FH and wished I lived over there to check it out.

Chief
 

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MCAS Cherry Point Base Profile

While reviewing the RRDB for Cherry Point last night I noticed it was, well a mess. I just recently got the new MCAS Cherry Point ATC Facility Manual dated 5 Aug 2016 (you can to at http://cherrypointatc.com/ATCWeb/2016 NKT Facility Manual.pdf

So here is a new profile for MCAS Cherry Point (KNKT). I have sent all the necessary corrections to the db admin team, but since it was messed up pretty good, I thought I would post an update here for anyone who may be in the area. As always any confirmed updates, corrections or additions are always appreciated and you can PM me here. There is additional info in the RRDB update I submitted so be sure to check it out when it is released. Without further ado . . . enjoy and good hunting de Chief

MCAS Cherry Point (NKT) Local Frequencies
Agency - VHF/UHF
NKT Approach/Departure East 124.100/268.700
NKT Approach North 119.750/360.775
NKT Approach West 119.350/377.175
NKT Arrival 132.575/299.600
NKT Ground Controlled Approach (GCA) 118.350 235.975 257.725 278.800 290.300 305.200 317.525 351.825
NKT Local Control (Tower) 121.300/340.200
NKT Ground Control 128.625/ 239.025
NKT Clearance Delivery 125.950/316.125
NKT ATIS 127.475/244.875
NKT Metro (Weather) 343.500
NKT Base Operations 126.200/305.700
VHF/UHF Guard 121.500/243.000

Adjacent Area Facility Frequencies

ZDC Washington ARTCC – EWN Low 135.500/281.425
ZDC Washington ARTCC – Sampson 135.300/285.500
ZDC Washington ARTCC – ILM High 124.025/269.150
ZDC Washington ARTCC – Cofield 123.850/323.000
ZDC Washington ARTCC – Northeast of Billy Mitchell HSE 124.725
Seymour Johnson AFB (GSB) North 123.700/290.900
Seymour Johnson AFB (GSB) South 119.700/273.600
Seymour Johnson AFB (GSB) Global 127.300/273.600
Wilmington (ILM) Approach 135.750/317.425
Wilmington (ILM) Clearance Delivery 121.400
Albert Ellis NC (OAJ) UNICOM 123.000
FACSFAC VaCapes (NVF) Giant Killer 135.875 251.600 310.100
NAS Oceana (NTU) Approach 123.900/266.800
Norfolk (ORF) Approach 127.900/269.425
Elizabeth City (ECG) Arrivals 119.550
MCAS New River (NCA) Radar 124.850 /279.575
MCAS New River (NCA) Tower 120.000/360.200
MCALF Bogue Field (NJM) Tower 126.450/341.300
Beaufort/MJ Smith (MRH) ASOS 135.375
Beaufort/MJ Smith (MRH) UNICOM 122.800
Beaufort/MJ Smith (MRH) Clearance Delivery 125.650
Craven Co Regional (EWN) Clearance Delivery 120.525
Craven Co Regional (EWN) Tower/CTAF 124.250
Craven Co Regional (EWN) ASOS 118.525
Dare Co Regional (MQI) RCO 124.725
Kingston NC (ISO) Tower 120.600/ 335.550
RDU FSS – EWN RCO 122.200/122.400
Billy Mitchell NC (HSE) RCO TO FSS 122.300
Billy Mitchell NC (HSE) UNICOM 122.900
Billy Mitchell NC (HSE) ASOS 118.375
Ocracoke Island NC (W95) UNICOM 122.900
Hyde County (7W6) UNICOM 122.700
Blackburn Range Control 119.500/ 233.800
Big Rock R-5306A/Core MOA 139.300/244.800
Big Rock R-5306C/Hat F MOA 141.950/323.775
BT-9 (Bomb Target) 149.325/226.575
BT-11 (Bomb Target) 141.850/323.900
Big Rock Civil 132.475

Cherry Point Local Based Squadrons

Squadron A/C Call Modex Type Squadron Common -- A/A
VMR-1 Lobo C-560/C-9 323.700
VMAT-203 Mars KD AV-8/TAV-8 361.450 -- 236.200 250.200
VMA-223 Stone WP AV-8 307.400 -- 299.400 308.200
VMA-231 Spade CG AV-8 261.225 -- 236.700 363.300
VMA-542 Lusty WH AV-8 252.625 -- 311.525 377.600
NADEP Driver Any Type 293.825
VMAQ-2 Jester CY EA-6B 348.875 -- 268.300
VMAQ-3 Dog MD EA-6B 357.125 -- 265.300
VMAQ-4 Hook RM EA-6B 360.975 -- 258.175
VMGR-252 Otis BH C-130 236.250 -- 269.9250 363.6000
VMU-2 Nightowl Shadow Blackjack I do not have any known freqs for this unit yet. Anyone?

2016 Cherry Point Airshow Frequencies

Military
Air Boss -- 340.200 (my favorite guy)
Discrete -- 233.975/305.200
Backup -- 317.525
MAGTF -- 278.800/290.300
AR Primary -- 237.735

Civilian
Air Boss -- 121,300
Backup -- 132.575
Discrete -- 118.350

Airfield Vehicle Call Signs

Airport Vehicles
Call Sign Type/Agency
Cherry 9 White Toolbox Truck/Facilities
Cherry 33 Yellow Emergency Truck/Recovery
Cherry 35 Small White Flatbed Pickup/Recovery
Cherry 37 White Van
Cherry 38 Water Truck/CFR
Cherry 39 Neon Green Emergency Truck/CFR Sec Ldr
Cherry 40 White Ford Ranger/ CFR Sec Ldr
Cherry 41-59 P19 /CFR
Cherry 65 White Panel Van/ATC Maint
Cherry 67 White Pickup Truck/ATC Maint
Cherry 68 Green Pickup W/ White Camper/ATC Maint
Cherry 69 White Pickup/EOD
Cherry 90 Large Yellow NADEP Tug/NADEP
Cherry Echo, etc Hand Held For Any Vehicle
Paddles 633 Green King Cab Pickup/Airops
Paddles 635 Red Jeep Cherokee/Airops
Paddles White Vehicle/All Squadrons
Val 1 Silver 2-Door Dodge Pickup/Val
Val 2 White Extended Cab Pickup/Val
Val 3 White King Cab Follow-Me/Val
Val 4 White King Cab Pickup/Val
Val Pax Van Blue Passenger Van/Val
Val Stairs White Stair Truck/Val
Recovery 4 White Single Cab Pickup/Recovery
Recovery 6 White Extended Cab Pickup/Recovery
Recovery 31 White Flatbed With Racks/Recovery

You will any be able to hear the above call signs if you are very close to the base. And if you are within LMR ground range and are equipped to monitor P25 trunked systems, I need some help checking out some frequency information I have on hand for Cherry Point and areas bases. If you have some time and are so equipped please contact here via PM.
 

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Heads up for eastern NC. According to Mark on the Maryland MD Milair forum group we have a couple of 305AMW KC-10s heading down the coast.

SPUR 71,81 are doing random A/R boom tests together up with ZDC Ctr Norfolk Va 133.825 1310z and using their A/A boom squad freq 268.025 MHz.

73 de Chief Larry
 

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Mil- Air Question

I just started monitoring military air. I put an antenna up about 40 feet in the air. I live in eastern North Carolina (Pitt County). I am hearing a moderate amount of traffic. My question is can anybody tell me or direct me to a link or website that could explain what I'm listening to? I guess what I'm trying to say is there any good reading material for newbie? Any help would be appreciated

73's Pete -. .---- ...- .- -.-
 

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I just started monitoring military air. I put an antenna up about 40 feet in the air. I live in eastern North Carolina (Pitt County). I am hearing a moderate amount of traffic. My question is can anybody tell me or direct me to a link or website that could explain what I'm listening to? I guess what I'm trying to say is there any good reading material for newbie? Any help would be appreciated
73's Pete -. .---- ...- .- -.-
Online, probably not Pete. There has been a lot over the years published in various magazines and books, some like Monitoring Times are no longer in publication. My question back at you are you wanting to learn more about the conversations you are hearing or the user/usage of the frequencies you are monitoring? If it is the later you would need to provide a freq/location in order to nail down a user/usage. If it is just trying to understand the content of what is being monitored again that depends on the user/usage of a frequency. For instance, some freqs are used for air traffic control. Comms on these freqs involve the safe movement of aircraft and they use a lot of phraseology that is documented in FAA publications. You will find some useful information on the FAA website at https://www.faasafety.gov/gslac/ALC/libview_normal.aspx?id=17272. Some of that terminology is explained in the FAA Pilot/Controller glossary at https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/media/pcg.pdf.

If it is communications involving military pilots you might want to check out the list of multiservice tactical brevity codes at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiservice_tactical_brevity_code.

And if you stay tuned there "may be" in the near future an article in a radio related publications that is aimed at the beginning milcom monitor. Hope that helps a bit. If you have something specific you can reply to this or PM here at RR.

Chief Larry
 

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Thanks Larry,


I hear a lot of military and both civilian communications since I put up a discone at about 40 feet and used the correct cable to feed my receiver. I am in Pitt County and did not think I could receive a lot of military air because I was too far away from the coast but I was wrong.

It is mostly the military communications I'm trying to decipher. Trying to figure out who they are and what they are doing is difficult for me at the newbie stage. Thank you for providing the links I can see they are going to help out quite a bit.

Thanks again


Pete
 

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I have looked across the internet to try and find info on the Snowbird MOA in WNC and the following is what I have come up with. Can anyone agree or disagree with my findings?

126.725 SNOWBIRD
254.300 SNOWBIRD
264.200 SNOWBIRD MOA AIR TAC (CRISCO CONT.)
269.500 SNOWBIRD
279.200 SNOWBIRD MOA AIR TAC (CRISCO CONT.)
281.100 SNOWBIRD SEYMORE JOHNSON OPS
288.800 SNOWBIRD MOA AIR TAC
297.800 SNOWBIRD MOA AIR TAC
300.925 SNOWBIRD
301.025 SNOWBIRD
301.125 SNOWBIRD
315.100 SNOWBIRD MOA AIR TAC
328.550 SNOWBIRD MOA AIR TAC
335.900 SNOWBIRD
363.900 SNOWBIRD
369.900 SNOWBIRD MOA AIR TAC (CRISCO CONT.)
377.050 SNOWBIRD
 
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