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Network Wide Ran Setting

swwifty

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I have two Kenwood NXR-710s that I've linked with a IP microwave backhaul. They have IP connectivity via the KTI-3. The repeaters are on separate frequencies.

I setup IP Conventional Network, and it is working. I found though that the RAN is changing based on RAN of the repeater that is actually keyed up first.

The network wide ran setting seems to determine if the RAN is re-transmitted on the other repeater the same or not. I set it to site dependent, so I can keep the programming the same on all my mobiles/portables (and reprogram them later for site roaming but take advantage of the linking now), but it seems that site dependent is still not allowing the repeater to transmit with the decode RAN that is set for the channel on that repeater.

Essentially the broken state has the effect of a user seeing a signal on the repeater, but no audio is passed. If they are tuned to the correct repeater they hear the audio.

I hope I explained this clearly, cause its a confusing issue. Am I just misunderstanding how RANs are supposed to be used in NXDN, or is this setting not working like it should because I missed something.

Thanks for your help.
 

swwifty

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One thing I should note, is I have the encode/decode table on both repeaters setup to have the RAN codes for both repeaters in them. I suspect maybe because it has this, its not using the default one when it receives the network traffic from the other repeater.
 

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I am not where I can pull up 129DN, but, you have your intersite calling that needs to be set to site dependent ran, not network.
it's in the network connections tab in 129. Hit F1 to read how RAN is transported over the network.
I did a 4 site conventional that has different rans for each site, ANY traffic that goes over the network comes out the other sites, with respective ran.

works like a charm.

I will check back as I am in a remote area with limited access.
 

swwifty

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It turns out this problem was because the encode/decode table was not configured properly on the opposite repeater.

I'll try to explain if it makes sense.

Repeater A has a encode of 1, decode of 1
Repeater B has as encode of 2, decode of 2

Repeater A hears a signal, and repeats it and sends to Repeater B. Repeater B needed to have encode 1, and decode 2 in its table, otherwise it would just retransmit the RAN as 1 from Repeater A.

I guess that's expected behavior, but quite odd.
 
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