New cars SUCK when you want to install a scanner!

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The heat issue with the Touch Scanner could certainly be a problem for me and others living in the south. Even in the winter (if you want to call it that), inside temps can sometimes reach triple digits.
True and I wouldn't want an RPi in my vehicle. An RPi is a great device, but for mobile use, I would not choose this.
 

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This has been one of my favorite gripes for years!

I keep my 325P2 in my 4Runner's cup holder or use a "clamping" cupholder mount, but I would really prefer the security of a permanently mounted control head. Lacking that, I'd be satisfied if there were an Android version of ProScan so I could link a mounted tablet or cellphone via USB.
I agree Rodger, that would be ideal.

I actually tried one of those adjustable mounts as seen on TV that clamped onto the radio and then you put it into the cup holder and tightened it so it was very secure and firm. It expanded the base to fit the cup holder tightly. Piece of junk fell apart within a week, just fell apart in my hands LOL.
 

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I agree Rodger, that would be ideal.

I actually tried one of those adjustable mounts as seen on TV that clamped onto the radio and then you put it into the cup holder and tightened it so it was very secure and firm. It expanded the base to fit the cup holder tightly. Piece of junk fell apart within a week, just fell apart in my hands LOL.

Built in China I bet. Or something the late Billy Mays would scream pitch.
 

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That is a most intriguing advertisement especially since the author is very candid listing these problems.

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I see it's coming soon! Let's see if he can work on that one issue of it melting on a hot dashboard. That's a deal-breaker for me. On the page that they ask for your name and email if you want one there is a picture and if you blow it up it is an sds200 scanner sitting on the dashboard. Let's hope they can figure out some of those glitches "soon"

The scanner on the dashboard was for reference so that you could see both the display and the scanner screen at the same time.
These devices are available now. As far as the heat issues, we have not had 1 complaint regarding a case being deformed or melted. We are in talks with a company that makes "pool" equipment, i.e., skimmer boxes, skimmer nets, etc. The idea is to have them make the case. As most are aware, that equipment is left in the heat for years and holds up. More to come on that if and when we can get a sample made. As far as the GPS is concerned, it was rewritten, and we haven't had any issues at all.

Robert, Casey
 

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That is a most intriguing advertisement especially since the author is very candid listing these problems.

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I see it's coming soon! Let's see if he can work on that one issue of it melting on a hot dashboard. That's a deal-breaker for me. On the page that they ask for your name and email if you want one there is a picture and if you blow it up it is an sds200 scanner sitting on the dashboard. Let's hope they can figure out some of those glitches "soon"

It is not coming soon, these devices are available now. The point of providing the above information was to identify the issues that we were having while this was under development and to be transparent about them. The method selected, our website, asking for your name and email address, was to control the building, sale, and distribution of the devices so that it could be managed effectively, as there are only 2 people involved in this project. Both of us have full time jobs, and families. Our intent was not to be another company who took orders, and peoples money and could not provide the product in a timely fashion. Take a look at the following thread, it details the converstations, the development process and how the device came to be.


Robert, Casey
 

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It is not coming soon, these devices are available now. The point of providing the above information was to identify the issues that we were having while this was under development and to be transparent about them. The method selected, our website, asking for your name and email address, was to control the building, sale, and distribution of the devices so that it could be managed effectively, as there are only 2 people involved in this project. Both of us have full time jobs, and families. Our intent was not to be another company who took orders, and peoples money and could not provide the product in a timely fashion. Take a look at the following thread, it details the converstations, the development process and how the device came to be.


Robert, Casey
Of course I know that thread, now it is pulling together and I understand what we are talking about here.

That posting you made saying coming soon and listing all of those issues is very unflattering, probably shouldn't see the light of day again LOL, it's probably a good time to rewrite the ad. If those are not issues anymore like the warping on a hot dash then no more need to disclose it... any problems you listed that are now solved, there is no need to disclose it.

Sorry I didn't put it together with that thread. Hope you get your own forum. Good luck to you, I know you've been working on this a long time.
 

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I don't have any external electonic devices in my car, and would recommend that anyone keeping a handheld in the car should always carry it on their person when leaving the vehicle, even if it's just a short stop for shopping. Those new car alarms don't always work as deterrents against theft of a vehicle's contents, because all too often the owner is not within earshot of the alarm. I've heard them go off around here and continue sounding the horn for as long as half an hour, with no one responding to them. In the underground parking where I live, someone once smashed the windows of two cars, and guess what they stole: two remotes for the garage door opener! I always use the parking lot outside, where car thieves would be easily seen from inside the building. Nevertheless, I once had my licence plate stolen, and oddly enough, the thief had enough time to mount his own plate (possibly another stolen one) on my car.

Distracted driving infractions are another consideration. Around here, if a cop pulls you over and sees a handheld scanner in your car, you'd have to prove you weren't using it while driving, even if it's currently in a cradle or a cup holder. It would be a lot worse in the case of an accident, when you'd likely get charged with driving while distracted. If you want to use the device inside the car, the only safe way is to pull over somewhere and shut the engine off.
 

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I don't have any external electonic devices in my car, and would recommend that anyone keeping a handheld in the car should always carry it on their person when leaving the vehicle, even if it's just a short stop for shopping. Those new car alarms don't always work as deterrents against theft of a vehicle's contents, because all too often the owner is not within earshot of the alarm. I've heard them go off around here and continue sounding the horn for as long as half an hour, with no one responding to them. In the underground parking where I live, someone once smashed the windows of two cars, and guess what they stole: two remotes for the garage door opener! I always use the parking lot outside, where car thieves would be easily seen from inside the building. Nevertheless, I once had my licence plate stolen, and oddly enough, the thief had enough time to mount his own plate (possibly another stolen one) on my car.

Distracted driving infractions are another consideration. Around here, if a cop pulls you over and sees a handheld scanner in your car, you'd have to prove you weren't using it while driving, even if it's currently in a cradle or a cup holder. It would be a lot worse in the case of an accident, when you'd likely get charged with driving while distracted. If you want to use the device inside the car, the only safe way is to pull over somewhere and shut the engine off.
That all sounds good but it's not practical. I'm not gonna carry my scanner, GPS, ham portable, etc., when I leave the car. I'll try to put them out of sight but I do lock the car and that's the best I can do.

Furthermore, I'm not about to pull over to use my scanner. I realize you're north of the border and things may be different but on this side of the line, I'm allowed to use it on the move and I do. Mine is an SDS200 mounted beside the console and I have an amateur radio license.
 

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I don't have any external electonic devices in my car, and would recommend that anyone keeping a handheld in the car should always carry it on their person when leaving the vehicle, even if it's just a short stop for shopping. Those new car alarms don't always work as deterrents against theft of a vehicle's contents, because all too often the owner is not within earshot of the alarm. I've heard them go off around here and continue sounding the horn for as long as half an hour, with no one responding to them. In the underground parking where I live, someone once smashed the windows of two cars, and guess what they stole: two remotes for the garage door opener! I always use the parking lot outside, where car thieves would be easily seen from inside the building. Nevertheless, I once had my licence plate stolen, and oddly enough, the thief had enough time to mount his own plate (possibly another stolen one) on my car.

Distracted driving infractions are another consideration. Around here, if a cop pulls you over and sees a handheld scanner in your car, you'd have to prove you weren't using it while driving, even if it's currently in a cradle or a cup holder. It would be a lot worse in the case of an accident, when you'd likely get charged with driving while distracted. If you want to use the device inside the car, the only safe way is to pull over somewhere and shut the engine off.

I usually just cover it up with a coat, sheet of paper or some other item. As for the last paragraph, I like to think most of us are smart enough not to get distracted so I for one don't blame the instrument but rather idiot is idiot does.
 

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That all sounds good but it's not practical. I'm not gonna carry my scanner, GPS, ham portable, etc., when I leave the car. I'll try to put them out of sight but I do lock the car and that's the best I can do.

Furthermore, I'm not about to pull over to use my scanner. I realize you're north of the border and things may be different but on this side of the line, I'm allowed to use it on the move and I do. Mine is an SDS200 mounted beside the console and I have an amateur radio license.
Yes, I guess the rules are different up here. Unfortunately, I still see a lot of drivers using their phones -- and even texting -- while not paying attention to the road ahead of them. Hands-free phones are allowed, but holding conversations on them can still be distracting, as can eating one's breakfast from a drive-thru with one hand on the wheel. Even talking to passengers can cause a distraction, but you can't restrict everything.

I was born in the U.S., and can remember my father driving with both hands occupied in finding change for toll booths on the NJ Turnpike. He relied on the car's power steering, and used his knees to guide the car. It always scared my mother.
 

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I was born in the U.S., and can remember my father driving with both hands occupied in finding change for toll booths on the NJ Turnpike. He relied on the car's power steering, and used his knees to guide the car. It always scared my mother.
WHAT?? You're not supposed to drive with your knees? :)
 

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WHAT?? You're not supposed to drive with your knees? :)
Of course not. I gradually became aware that my dad's mind was never completely on his driving. He tended to wander on the road, even though he wasn't under the influence of alcohol. I was in the car during a couple of bad accidents, which were the fault of the other driver, but could have been avoided with a better focus on driving. No one was seriously injured, but in one case our brand-new 1960 Oldsmobile was totalled, and my father's knee was fractured from hitting the ignition key, which we later found had been bent at a 45-degree angle from the impact. Not to mention the bent steering wheel and the headlights, which ended up aimed at one another in a cross-eyed manner. Seatbelts were not mandatory back then. I was a nervous passenger for years afterwards, regardless of who was driving.

Recently a woman was so worried about a little spider she had spotted in her car that she lost control, ran off the road, hit a tree stump in someone's yard, and wound up with her brand-new SUV upside-down in the driveway. There were no injuries, except perhaps to her car and her dignity.

Years ago, when I was driving an old VW beetle, a wasp got into the car, so to avoid getting stung, I stopped the car in a parking lot and started trying to scoot the wasp out of the car. By then he was at the rear window, and hard to reach in a car like that with just two doors, so I opened both doors and he eventually found his way out.

I've even seen women doing their hair while looking at the vanity mirror on their visors. Now there's an accident waiting to happen!
 

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I was joking. Actually, specifically driving with your knees isn't mentioned in the law. Other laws cover unsafe driving, however and I think those would apply.
 

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I was joking. Actually, specifically driving with your knees isn't mentioned in the law. Other laws cover unsafe driving, however and I think those would apply.
My dad had to be retested when he moved to a new state, and the examiner didn't like where he placed his hands on the wheel. Oh well, at least he used his hands that time. :LOL:
 

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Okay, I'm out of this one. We're waaaay off topic.
 

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I had a BT setup on my Pro106 in my old car and it worked OK, except every time the squelch opened, a big THUMP came through the factory subwoofer at high volume. I tried some other BT adaptors and they all did the same thing, but some of them could be run at a lower volume which helped a little. In my present car, with the Harman-Kardon setup, it's totally unusable. So if I'm going to say Detroit, one of my SDS200's rides along, and that works well, with a short mag mount antenna on the roof
 

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I use a LIDO floor mount that is bolted to the seat mounting hardware on the passenger side of the front seat. It is flexible and an adjustable cell phone mount connects easily. I clamp my 436 in and use a tiny bungee cord to secure it. I have an external power supply cable running up the shaft of the mount as well as the coax for the antenna. To reduce stress on the BNC connector I use two 90 degree BNC adapters to bring the connection vertical with the side of the radio. I will take a picture later and try to post it. This is the third vehicle I have used the same set up in.

When I exit the vehicle, I place a hat or small towel over the radio.
 

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For years I used my BCT-15 with the RH-96 remote head in my vehicle. I’ve recently downsized my vehicle and don’t have the room for that setup. My HP-1 fits perfectly in the center console, without a bracket.
 

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Distracted driving infractions are another consideration. Around here, if a cop pulls you over and sees a handheld scanner in your car, you'd have to prove you weren't using it while driving, even if it's currently in a cradle or a cup holder. It would be a lot worse in the case of an accident, when you'd likely get charged with driving while distracted. If you want to use the device inside the car, the only safe way is to pull over somewhere and shut the engine off.

What about using your cell phone as a GPS? They can just say that you were texting while driving even if you don't touch it?
 
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