New Jersey Interoperability Communication System (NJICS)

[richee2000]

I also heard TG 3137 on UC Simulcast this morning. Sounded like fire activity on a highway, but something about spraying foam on the highway was mentioned. But I guess it could have also been DOT. I'm not sure.

I'm pretty sure 3137 is DOT

 

[rr60]

5163 is a cross patch for Plainfield Fire from 460.575.

Moving slowly but moving. Guessing the next step will be full time ICS AND 2400 County Dispatch.

 

[bunangst]

5163 is a cross patch for Plainfield Fire from 460.575.

Moving slowly but moving. Guessing the next step will be full time ICS AND 2400 County Dispatch.

No plans to move to county dispatch that I'm aware of. Control stations were just integrated into the PD dispatch consoles allowing for the patch. Final setup still in progress from my understanding

 

[slingshot202]

No plans to move to county dispatch that I'm aware of. Control stations were just integrated into the PD dispatch consoles allowing for the patch. Final setup still in progress from my understanding

Was hearing a response from Engine 4 today on 5161.......I did not write down the Radio ID, will next time.

 

[slingshot202]

Yup, 2012###

2012304

 

[RadioDitch]

5161 is Plainfield Fire 1, 5163 is Plainfield Fire 2.

As I have said for a long time. Everyone will have to go eventually in Union County.

 

[RadioDitch]

Has anyone checked on Garrett Mountain at all to see if it's still part of the West Orange cell? There was some work done up there this week that actually took the whole simulcast offline for bit.

 

[n2pqq]

Talk group 9048 Unit ID 4204597
Heard on Randolph site
Does anyone know who this is

Sounds like transportation related ( mentioned trains )
One side of conversation comes in clear , other side almost like a patch talk group.

 

[CqDx]

Seems like you are picking up MRRS system, that talkgroup and radio ID is what was used on that system.

Metro-25/MTA MRRS Trunking System, Regional, New York

Metro-25/MTA MRRS Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[GTR8000]

Talk group 9048 Unit ID 4204597
Heard on Randolph site
Does anyone know who this is

Sounds like transportation related ( mentioned trains )
One side of conversation comes in clear , other side almost like a patch talk group.

Seems like you are picking up MRRS system, that talkgroup and radio ID is what was used on that system.

Metro-25/MTA MRRS Trunking System, Regional, New York

Metro-25/MTA MRRS Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

That's exactly what he's hearing. The MRRS Orange/Rockland Zone 4 cell shares 770.40625 with the NJICS Randolph site. If that frequency is the current control channel for the MRRS cell, and you have it programmed in for NJICS, the scanner is going to stop and start decoding.

I recommend that you go through your NJICS programmed and delete any frequencies that are not flagged as control channels in the RRDB. 770.40625 is one such frequency, it is not control capable for the Randolph site and so you don't need it programmed. This is a good example of why it's not always a good idea to have every site frequency in the scanner for a trunked site; nearly all scanners manufactured within the past 15-20 years only require the control channel to trunk track P25 systems, they do not need the voice frequencies programmed.

 

[pro106import]

I used to hear EMS dispatch all the time up here in Ct. on 462.950 and 462.975 with a 210.7 PL. Last time maybe a couple years ago. I think it was Ocean County or Brick county NJ down that way. Don't hear them anymore. Did they move to this NJICS system?
Bob

 

[elias1988]

That was MONOC,they ceased operations April 1st of last year. Robert Wood Johnson and Hackensack Meridian Health provides MICU for Ocean County and operates on NJICS.

 

[pro106import]

That was MONOC,they ceased operations April 1st of last year. Robert Wood Johnson and Hackensack Meridian Health provides MICU for Ocean County and operates on NJICS.

Ahh ok yes the timeline makes sense. Used to love those toneout tones! I can only hear the Union and West Orange sites from my location. Would I be able to hear them on either of those sites? Or do they not affiliate that far north.

 

[elias1988]

I’m not sure about that but RWJ/Med Central patches the North and South channels at times so you may hear them. There is a feed:

Middlesex County Fire and EMS Live Audio Feed

Middlesex County Fire and EMS Live Audio Feed on Broadcastify.com

broadcastify.com

 

[pro106import]

I’m not sure about that but RWJ/Med Central patches the North and South channels at times so you may hear them. There is a feed:

Middlesex County Fire and EMS Live Audio Feed

Middlesex County Fire and EMS Live Audio Feed on Broadcastify.com

broadcastify.com

OK nice. Thank You very much for all the info!
Bob

 

[NParkNJ]

That's exactly what he's hearing. The MRRS Orange/Rockland Zone 4 cell shares 770.40625 with the NJICS Randolph site. If that frequency is the current control channel for the MRRS cell, and you have it programmed in for NJICS, the scanner is going to stop and start decoding.

I recommend that you go through your NJICS programmed and delete any frequencies that are not flagged as control channels in the RRDB. 770.40625 is one such frequency, it is not control capable for the Randolph site and so you don't need it programmed. This is a good example of why it's not always a good idea to have every site frequency in the scanner for a trunked site; nearly all scanners manufactured within the past 15-20 years only require the control channel to trunk track P25 systems, they do not need the voice frequencies programmed.

I know you know this GTR. This is for others.

If its a Motorola system you don’t need to. If its a Harris(maybe EFJ) you need every single channel, Primary, alternate control, and every voice channel. Wayne’s system is a perfect example. I have seen every channel used as a control channel at some point or another. And because of its range in t-band, and the area itself has a lot of nearby frequencies similar to it, it rotates quite often of its primary CC.

 

[GTR8000]

It's worth noting that the RRDB policy now calls for flagging every frequency of a non-Motorola P25 system as control capable, unless there is 100% certainty that not all channels are control capable. If anyone comes across one of these Harris or other vendor systems that doesn't have the frequencies all flagged, feel free to make a submission asking them to be flagged. (The overwhelming majority of Motorola ASTRO 25 systems use the BEE00 WACN...easiest way to distinguish Motorola vs others)

If a P25 system is known to be provided by Harris, Tait, EADS or Cassidian, the normally-active control channel for each site shall be designated as the primary control channel, and all other channels at that site shall be designated as alternate control channels, unless specific reliable information to the contrary is submitted. Since systems from these vendors can use any channel as control, this is necessary to ensure that scanners can locate a new control channel in the event of a change.

 

[bailly2]

scanning the bordentown site. Im between the bordentown and millstone towers..if i put a cardboard box with aluminum foil next to the scanner blocking the signal to the east i can clearly receive the bordentown tower. No constant control channel though and if i do then the voice transmissions are garbled. Getting no signal so took away the box and getting clear transmissions. Is the bordentown tower down or is there no simulcasting if no radio is in that area?

 

[kd2pm]

Site 3 (Bordentown, Millstone, Toms River, Warren Grove, Chatsworth) simulcast should be able to be heard and no particular tower should be down that I know of. Since it is a simulcast and not a multi-site...you should be able to hear it on either tower but keep in mind you wont necessarily know which site you are hearing it on unless you do exactly what you did by trying to isolate the signal to just one tower. Just sounds like you are not in a good location to properly hear Bordentown. From where I live I can get Bordentown Simulcast as well as Hunterdon Simulcast and Crandbury..I just guess which sites I am actually hearing stuff on. Cranbury is easy...But for the 2 simuls..I am probably getting Millstone and Princeton

 

[trentbob]

I listen to C3-10 Statewide Marine dispatch and C3-01 Division Call, Statewide Aviation dispatch at all times. I only listen to Bordentown simulcast. I live near the water right on the river near the Burlington-Bristol Bridge with constant 5 bars with both the 100 and 200. Sounds so much better than the old system. No problems with Bordentown site today. I hear Burlington Marine station regularly. They are always checking the turnpike bridge and the Burlington-Bristol Bridge. Not too many boat stops today.