New 'Replacement' for FRS and Bubblepack GMRS?

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If they are hams then I think it would be, with proper identification of course. Otherwise, not so sure...

-Mike

Why are you not sure?

It is in the ISM band, what does being a Ham have to do with it?

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Seems I was Wroooo, WWwwrrrooo, Wwwwrrroooonnnn,
Not exactly right.

I did not realize that the ISM and Amateur bands were the same frequency range.:(
 
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If they are hams then I think it would be, with proper identification of course. Otherwise, not so sure...

-Mike
If they can stay within whatever the rules are for Part 15 on 900 MHz, they should be fine without the ham tickets.

I am looking at setting up some data radios on 900. I figure I will start it as a ham project and if I can get it to work at Part 15 power levels, use the radios for work as well. Now I just need to come up with the time...
 

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Why are you not sure?

It is in the ISM band, what does being a Ham have to do with it?

EDIT:

Seems I was Wroooo, WWwwrrrooo, Wwwwrrroooonnnn,
Not exactly right.

I did not realize that the ISM and Amateur bands were the same frequency range.:(

There there...now, it'll be ok...we will still respect you tomorrow. This thread will eventually get buried and people will forget all about it, just give it time...

-Mike
 
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There there...now, it'll be ok...we will still respect you tomorrow. This thread will eventually get buried and people will forget all about it, just give it time...

-Mike

No problem.making mistakes.:twisted:

It's the best way to learn. :wink::wink:

I like learning almost as much as I like teaching.
 

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No problem.making mistakes.:twisted:

It's the best way to learn. :wink::wink:

I like learning almost as much as I like teaching.

Ahh...so that issue you were having with trying to type that one word, you know, the one beginning with the letters "w" then "r" then "o" then "n"...that was some kind of nervous problem or muscle control dealywonker? Yeah, you might want to get that looked at;-)!

Or get that seriously bad keyboard bounce issue fixed, I guess, huh!?

-Mike
 
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Ahh...so that issue you were having with trying to type that one word, you know, the one beginning with the letters "w" then "r" then "o" then "n"...that was some kind of nervous problem or muscle control dealywonker? Yeah, you might want to get that looked at;-)!

-Mike


Just a joke playing in the idiocy of the people who have decided they know me. (I won't mention names like Ray-Man, . . . Oops)
 

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"Chuckle"...yeah, ok...just couldn't resist!

BTW - I think I've broken several records on being wrong in my lifetime - not sure if I've effectively learned from all occurrences of these but I did try!

-Mike
 

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Just have one question: I have never heard of these before. Where can I get a pair of them? They sound a lot better than either MURS or FRS. Tnx vy de WA8LGM

Me and my buddy got a set at Best Buy. They might have them at some outdoors stores like Academy or Sportsmans Warehouse. Make sure you pay a little extra to get the pair that lets you do text messaging.

We haven't messed around with them extensively yet but so far they've worked pretty well.
 
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It works surprisingly well. We often get a one mile (reliable) radius coverage car to car in a suburban environment. We get a bit less in rural areas.
I woud describe it as 1 1/2 to 2 times what you can expect with FRS.

It exceeded my expectations. I would think that the higher power of the XRS units would push that out even more.

Maybe more range the FRS 500mw, but not more than the 5 watt gmrs handhelds. My icoms will do 2 1/2 miles radio to radio, on flat terrain, with homes, buildings, and trees in between. My bubble pack midland 5 watt radios will do a bit less than two miles from the same two points. Yes, you are supposed to be licensed to use them, but very few people / companies that use them here care much about that, and neither does the FCC so it seems. So if some church managing parking during services or a garbage company managing their trucks in their main yard (two local examples) can buy radios for 10-20 dollars each, they will not spend all the extra money to buy these things.

Secure comms for kids? Why? The voice scrambling on bubble pack radios should suffice.

900 mhz radios will usually not work as well inside of a structure communicating to another radio somewhere else as a 460 mhz radio will. Locally, the Buckeye PD uses a 900 mhz system and it it notorious for working poorly inside of buildings, but fine outside. Firefighters all over the country have found that the new systems in the 860 mhz range do not work as well from inside of a structure as their old vhf or uhf radios did. This has already dawned on the city of Phoenix. Our local cops grouse about not having any reception in certain buildings where there old radios worked fine, and this is with a mega-bucks simulcast system in place. Higher frequencies just don't work as well for some things.


I'll bet a MURS radio could outperform them as well for that matter.

One thing these radios might create though if they become popular, is a hassle for the feds who monitor comms for security reasons. They tend to be a bit suspicious about secured comms that are not from LE. Yes they can still monitor these things, but it's just another hassle to have to have specialized equipment in use to do so all over the place if they become widespread spending time listening in on these things.

Oh, and just to take a slap at nextel, they are the worst service I have ever had the displeasure to be forced to use in the valley. Verizon is top dog in this part of the world.
 
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I have seen other threads on this, but the DTR's work great.

The digital voice sounds a little different of course, but they are private and have good range. I have the DTR 550/650 GEN1's. The GEN 2 models have a detachable antenna. They come with longer antennas instead of the stub the original ones came with. With the detachable, you could put a higher gain rubber ducky on or you could probably even use them for mobile-mobile with a 900MHz magnet mount.

Note: The last 2 years I have used the DTR 550's aboard cruise ships and they have better coverage than the 4W UHF Motorola Visar's that I used to take years ago.
 
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