SDS150: New Uniden Scanner announcement at SEMA 2025

jpb

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unless it decrypts I guess my scanning days are numbered

Comments like this puzzle me. Even if the radio can decrypt, like a Unication G5 for example, it’s still useless unless you know the hexadecimal key value. In my region, we have shared public safety encryption keys, but they get transferred from Key Variable Loader (KVL) to another KVL via cable transfer. While the Common Key Reference (CKR) number is known, nobody actually sees the key string, and you can’t read its actual value from the KVL. Besides the fact that the agency doesn’t know the key value, even if they did, they’d never share it with anyone. It’d get them fired and maybe arrested.

Maybe I am missing some nuance, but if they’re encrypted, they’re gone.
 

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So, bottom line, at the end of the day, performance-wise when it comes to reception, is there expected to be any real difference in receive between the 100 and 150?
We've seen a couple videos from Mr. Houk on this. He compared reception of a weather channel between the 100 & 150, with a noticeable improvement in reception on the 150.
 

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The whole TETRA discussion many pages back got me really excited. For the 1K price tag, if TETRA was included even as a separate key unlock purchase, I would consider the 150.
Originally, when the SDS series were introduced, there was no need for TETRA and dPMR, outside of the EU and Australia, and even then, TETRA wasn't part of the plan. Now, with several TETRA systems in use, it's become desirable. Still no official word about its implementation, but the matter of dPMR is different: the code is in the firmware, as it's already available in overseas models of the SDS series, but the licensing hasn't been approved yet for North American models, yet, even though thanks to the flood of cheap Chinese radios, and tourists from Europe bringing in their radios, dPMR can be heard here, especially by some hams. It's because of this, that I believe there's a good enough reason to work on licensing the dPMR keys in the US & Canada, now.

Whether either or both get implemented, remains to be seen.
 

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I'll wait for the SDS500... 500 KHz to 1.5 GHz coverage, true SSB, and the simulcast distortion correction on HF to clean up HFGCS audio when they use the whole network to broadcast.

And dual screens. And more knobs and buttons.
And a Keurig. (All you waffle fans out there - sorry, not sorry!)
 

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...Defeats the purpose of spotlighting simulcast hash. But fair point—scan mode vid could be a fun follow-up. I have no ETA for my next trip to CBus, a steak dinner does sound nice if anyone in the area is offering?
It's a 3.5 hour drive one way, but next time my son and I plan a railfanning trip down there, I'll PM you and you're on!
 

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This is what I want to know, would the 150 be better than the top notch conventional radio for analog?
Chinese, uniden 125, what ever is the best I don't know. How could it be? What could they possibly put in the 150 that would be any better at receive. For p25 I could understand that but like someone said earlier it was demonstrated on noaa that there was a great improvement. I have a hard time getting a distant ems channel that that my 125, tid radio h3 and a couple other radios including a rspduo that doesn't do any better than my sds100. There pretty much equal. One thing I was wondering that might help would be that they put noise reduction in the 150. One of these days I want to try the nvidia broadcast application that cuts out the background static connected to my sds 100 to see if it would make a distant channel comfortable too listen too. It does work somewhat good on hf. Anyhow just curious as to what anyone might know about the 150 that could make the receive that much better than the 100. If it does I'm gonna have to figure out the hardest part, getting my wife to believe it's made of gold and nobody knows it. Or giving her free access to a buying spree on temu.
 

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Short answer is a different scanner is not your answer. A better antenna system would be better suited for you. You say distant analog frequency how far away is this signal? Most radios will receive better than a wide band scanner. You just need to use the correct tool for the job you have. You will never find 1 tool that will do all jobs 100%.
 

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This is what I want to know, would the 150 be better than the top notch conventional radio for analog?
Chinese, uniden 125, what ever is the best I don't know. How could it be? What could they possibly put in the 150 that would be any better at receive. For p25 I could understand that but like someone said earlier it was demonstrated on noaa that there was a great improvement. I have a hard time getting a distant ems channel that that my 125, tid radio h3 and a couple other radios including a rspduo that doesn't do any better than my sds100. There pretty much equal. One thing I was wondering that might help would be that they put noise reduction in the 150. One of these days I want to try the nvidia broadcast application that cuts out the background static connected to my sds 100 to see if it would make a distant channel comfortable too listen too. It does work somewhat good on hf. Anyhow just curious as to what anyone might know about the 150 that could make the receive that much better than the 100. If it does I'm gonna have to figure out the hardest part, getting my wife to believe it's made of gold and nobody knows it. Or giving her free access to a buying spree on temu.
Biggest reason for any one of the Uniden SDS scanners is LSM. Possibly a Unication G series pager.

For anything other than LSM, a Uniden BCD436HP, BCD536HP, BCD325P2 or BCD996P2 for analog, P25 single channel or trunked, DMR and NXDN.

Uniden SDS100 does not need DSP. For analog, it needed to not have the Rafael chip as the RF front end. However, for digital modes it does very well.

Is a SDS150 better at analog? Initial reports are encouraging, but for me I will wait and see after there are more users. I like that it has a GPS receiver, drop in charger and larger speaker.
 

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I would probably pre order this since there is that PayPal deal.

My area is moving away from opensky system to a brand new p25 phase 2 system. Which is awesome. But then said they are probably encrypting everything but might not. Too much of a risk to drop $900. Lame!
 

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Just a note. I have looked at the extra grills on the 150 in photos all over the place. I then looked closely at my 100 grill and noticed the the grill covers 1/2 of the speaker in the 100. That 'might' be a reason the speaker sounds somewhat muted. If the new larger grill 'uncovers' the same speaker completely, there may be greater quality in the sound. Just a thought.
 
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