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The "thief" has made some really fantastic claims with his VX-8, everything from it being used by some government agencies to being able to work with P25 digital by slapping in a board to transmitting continuous from about 25 to 900MHz and so on.

Personally, I need to see these things in person before believing.
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Hmm, well since i suppose you could be right... i cant say either way...

But what i can say is that i'm shocked there isnt more resources out about the VX-8R. Its obviously pretty darn close to a software defined radio, i'm just suprised that you cant find so much as a memory dump yet.

Personally, i would love to see a copy of the source code of the VX-8 firmware, that would be fun to play with indeed :)

Argh, why cant they make open source radios?

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The Democratic party and I.

It will be worth the wait for yahoo approval to read it in raw form. One post does say the P25 board is not for sale whatsoever but were supplied to the US democratic party by the Japanese military as a gift to use in encrypted VX-8Rs at the Martin Luther King walk in San Antonio, TX.
WTF??
The poster uses the word "we" when referring to the persons supplying communications for the walk and leads you to believe he is involved in future presidential communications.
I think the guy could have a shot on the comedy central channel.

Hello.

This last go round I was making use of the VX-8R complete with mods.
That was not so unusual.
What is unusual is that there are around 300 of the things.
A few were in use at the bexar county united Democratic headquarters located on Broadway in San Antonio and a complete demonstration of the capabilities of this type of radio was given.
This includes the frequency range.
With that said it was clear that it is our best interests to not "let the cat out of the bag" and release the how of how this is done.
Again, I have Never turned down a request for a demonstration of this radio but it really is for our use.
And as far as the MLK march goes? I am the one carrying the Mexican flag with a talkie on my back belt.
 

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Just got a VX-8R for Christmas. Love it so far, although it's annoying having to press a button and turn a knob just to adjust the volume.
 

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You can press FW and VOL, and now the knob by itself will change the volume instead of the freq or the memory channel.
 

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VX-8R mods.

Hello.

As some are aware, the VX-8R is indeed a firmware (software) based radio.
The only way to get firmware out of the radio is from the contact points provided, serial data.
If done incorrectly it will "brick" the radio, just one glitch will do it as the software must be running for a transfer to take place.
With that said, one can look at the service manual and see the serial port connection to the CPU from the service manual.
There is a test fixture that has been cloned that allows a solid connection to the Vertex RIB, FIF-10a.
Again, it is VERY easy to brick this radio, even in a read function.
A radio was bricked, and revived, has the housing modded and now only accepts external power, this is the "donor" radio.
From the donor radio it is possible to clone another like it, a simple serial connection.
As far as getting the actual source code, fat chance, all we have been able to do is decompile what we have, identify what everything does and move the frequency limit markers.
As was eluded to in the prior posts, there is indeed a "new and improved" VX-8R out, the VX-8DR and VX-8GR.
Every attempt to do much more than reassign frequency coverage and channel assignments leads to a bricked radio, and why the donor radio, we can recover from any fault as there is direct access to the CPU.
Again, creating a donor radio is a major mod to the case that will render the radio unusable as a talkie.
Access to both the CPU and EEPROM is done in the usual manner as the ports are brought to the outside of the case, and why there is no easy way to do this.
Again, this involves major work on one talkie that can not easily be undone.
In the case of the VX-7R, one can pull the radio out of its case and lay the 3 boards out, access is much easier, VX-8R is not so easy.
There are no plans to do anything but the donor radios and clone.
AFAIK, there is no other way to do this.
And if you do brick your radio I can not help you, how do you think we get the source for donor radios?
 

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Mods.

Hello.

The P-25 module is against the law to sell, DVSI has an issue with a patent or 2.
But, want to try it out?
DVSI Home Page
Yes! a USB dongle that does P-25! imagine that!
As far as the out of band mods, the VX-7r (ONLY!) is very much based on the JDF-6, a Japanese military radio.
The JDF-6 is a Controlled Cryptographic Item.
Controlled Cryptographic Item - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There are a bunch of cops or wanna be cops that asked questions about getting this going for themselves.
This was a Motorola board.
To make this clear, I am not a cop.
Yes, I would play bagpipes at some cops funerals, but I am not your bud!
With that said, the Feds asked that I not go further.
The new rules ban most ham rigs on MARS or CAP so there is no legal use for this.
But, again, P-25 module, have at it!
Motorola is no longer involved with Yaesu USA and Google now owns Motorola cellular, so I am going to test the waters.
But, please, no more cop crap, again, I am not a cop!
Thank you.
 

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Hello.



There are 3 levels of mods for the VX-8R, just like the VX-3R and VX-7R.

The first will not provide AM aircraft transmit on the VX-8R.

Only a firmware update does this, level 2.

Level 3 is a board level mod that will allow very limited high HF operation and other things at the expense of purity.

But, around 138 to 310ish to 560ish is what the jumper/softjump settings will do with low band of 40 to around 100ish.

Note that I am not counting where the thing will transmit, but where it will transmit with useful power.

Yaesu installed stronger filtering in the VX-8R for the aviation band, so it is like putting a FT-8x7 on the VHF aero band.

And, it was decided that changing the memory chips is not a "Home Improvement" type of project, the number of people who flat out wrecked radios and were upset makes it not worth while.

Remember, most people find adding memory to a computer to be a challange.

Unless you are equipped to do SMD board devices you will fail.

And, if you are equipped and trained on board level servicing you need no help, you already know how to identify the chip and select its successor and can extract the code and bitbang it.


Can you support ANY of your outlandish claims with ANY sort of documentation???????


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Folks, this is an old thread that magically came back to life.

If anyone has legitimate information about the capabilities of the Yaesu VX-8R, please post it.

Also, let's not turn this into a political debate.
 

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Folks, this is an old thread that magically came back to life.

If anyone has legitimate information about the capabilities of the Yaesu VX-8R, please post it.

Also, let's not turn this into a political debate.


Did not even see the date before cowtheif posted yesterday. Someone had call him on his bull crap claims...


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