NJSP No Recieve

[motorone]

I'm using a Pro 2051. Have NJSP Troop A and C programed in 2 diferent banks. All control freqs. and talk groups programed. Controll channel only. Set as 800 Type II (as per RR Data Base ) I have rechecked all info many times. I have not heard one peep on these banks. Can't understand why. Am I missing something? Any help welcome.
Thanks

 

[Skypilot007]

I always manually or with the computer program all the frequencies for the systems in the bank I want. I don't use control channels only option. This way you know they're all in there. And also be sure they are programmed as motorola trunk for each channel. Both systems are up as I was monitoring them on my ride to work this morning. Maybe someone more familure with the pro2051 can help further.

 

[motorone]

I always manually or with the computer program all the frequencies for the systems in the bank I want. I don't use control channels only option. This way you know they're all in there. And also be sure they are programmed as motorola trunk for each channel. Both systems are up as I was monitoring them on my ride to work this morning. Maybe someone more familure with the pro2051 can help further.

Thanks. I'll try all freqs. again. Must be somthing simple i'm missing. Other trunked freqs. seem to work fine. Again, thanks

 

[motorone]

NJ No Recieve

I manually programed all freqs. and id's for troop a and c. (RR Data Base) Set control channel to plan 3. Rechecked all info. Read the book. Still no NJSP. Have not heard a sound on the 2 banks they are in.( Using a multi band antenna ) I'm frustrated, what is the reason for this. HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[nosoup4u]

Are you getting the control channels? Program 860.7125, 859.7125, 858.7125 as conventional frequencies and see if you hear the control channel data. A-Troop might not come in too well there, but you should have no trouble with C-Troop.

 

[motorone]

I programed the controll freqs. in conventionally. Have been scanning the 4 freqs. for 30 mins. and have heard nothing on any channel. Now I'm really lost.

 

[Skypilot007]

You should be able to hear the control channels from troop A and C from Lumberton with a hand held scanner. Most definetly you should be hearing troop A. Somethings up. When I get home or if someone else is monitoring the system, I'll post up the currently active control channels for troop A and C.

 

[motorone]

I agree somthing aint right. Thanks for the help. In the meantime, I'll try a couple other things. Thanks again.

 

[elias1988]

The current active control channel for Troop C is 860.7125

 

[motorone]

NJSP Recieved

I tried a few diferent things and did find what the problem might be. Disconected the external base antenna and put the antenna that came with the scanner on and, yep there was the state police. I guess the 800mhz band is quite sensitive. Base antenna checked out fine but must not be tuned to optimize 800mhz. band. Going to try a cheap RS base unit and cut it to optimize 800hz. Maybe this will help, I hope. Thanks for all the help guys. Any further sugestions welcomed.

 

[motorone]

I always manually or with the computer program all the frequencies for the systems in the bank I want. I don't use control channels only option. This way you know they're all in there. And also be sure they are programmed as motorola trunk for each channel. Both systems are up as I was monitoring them on my ride to work this morning. Maybe someone more familure with the pro2051 can help further.

My problem was the antenna. Picked up a cheap RS Base and cut it down for 800mhz and began recieving NJSP. ( troop a & c ) Never thought the antenna was that critical. Multiband antennas don't cover all the freqs. that they claim. Thanks to all for the help.....

 

[NESN]

The NJSP 800 Mhz signal can be very fickle. Even certain atmospheric conditions can affect your reception. ( I.E-good days & bad days.)
The closest repeater sites to you are probably Bordentown (295 & 130), Red Lion (70 & 206) and Camden.
As you have learned ,sometimes a dedicated 800 Mhz antenna makes the difference.

 

[wildbillx]

what kind of rs antenna

What kind of RS antenna did you cut down to recieve the 800mhz

 

[w2xq]

Lumberton location?

Going to try a cheap RS base unit and cut it to optimize 800hz. Maybe this will help, I hope. Thanks for all the help guys. Any further sugestions welcomed.

I don't know where you live in Lumberton -- don't give out your address -- but I travel through the community almost every day. I listen from the car using a ham radio HT, and NJSP signals are not all that good when I'm on 541 in the center of town. That's in the trees, north of the church. I live north of the Red Lion Circle off 206, in the tall trees... and reception is also pretty poor. As stated earlierin this thread, towers aren't that close to us. The better and higher your antenna on the house, the happier you'll be.
Tom W2XQ

 

[kb2vxa]

Hi Mono and all,

Yup, not all and in fact rather few "general coverage" antennas receive 800MHz well, when you try to cram 10lb of crap into a 5lb sack you have what's known as a blivet. That's just my way of saying when you try to make something do too many things something's gotta give.

I solved my problem by combining signals from an Andrew 3dB gain 800MHz cell phone antenna with those from my main through a diplexer but there's more than one way to skin a cat. The point is the only antenna that does really well is one designed for the band, not some blivet antenna.

Still I'm puzzled why the NJSP tower in Dover Twp. is weak while the NJT tower in Newark is about the same strength and it's several times the distance. There might be some obstruction, multipath cancellation or something, I haven't exactly done a site study to suss it all out. The antenna system works just the same and that's really what matters, the main is deaf on 800 so I went looking in the hat and found my rabbit.

 

[Joseph11]

There's an NJT North tower in Dover Township, as well. I can get both without any antenna.

 

[PJH]

Um... What ham HT (or any ham radio) recieves Type II?

I don't know where you live in Lumberton -- don't give out your address -- but I travel through the community almost every day. I listen from the car using a ham radio HT, and NJSP signals are not all that good when I'm on 541 in the center of town. That's in the trees, north of the church. I live north of the Red Lion Circle off 206, in the tall trees... and reception is also pretty poor. As stated earlierin this thread, towers aren't that close to us. The better and higher your antenna on the house, the happier you'll be.
Tom W2XQ