NTIA Government Master File of Federal Frequency Assignments
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@twosenses: That's really excellent! Searching for a freq is now instant instead of minutes.
Do you have any control over how it deals with spaces? The variable number of spaces between fields, that may be in the source document because of their silly use of a proportional font to display what should be columnar data, but without tabs for alignment, is proving to be a challenge to parse. No chance I can muster the will or energy to do it page-by-page as someone else above was doing (perhaps tongue-in-cheek
).
That is all I found on the internet
Found it. NTIA Redbook (September 2017) (chapter by chapter). The whole book (19MB) can be downloaded directly from https://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/ntia_manual_september_2017_revision.pdf
@twosenses: That's really excellent! Searching for a freq is now instant instead of minutes.
Do you have any control over how it deals with spaces? The variable number of spaces between fields, that may be in the source document because of their silly use of a proportional font to display what should be columnar data, but without tabs for alignment, is proving to be a challenge to parse. No chance I can muster the will or energy to do it page-by-page as someone else above was doing (perhaps tongue-in-cheek
I'll take a look at the docs for it and see what I can do. I know I can nuke all the original formatting but that may not be super helpful
nd5y
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I have Grove's book also and the front cover is history, it was not in any condition to save. The book is held together with one of those black clips, the largest I've ever seen. The binding failed long ago. I haven't looked at it much since the narrowband mandate and now especially since the reallocation of the federal VHF High band.
I goofed up and didn't save any of the last editions of the 9 Police Call books published, although I still have a Southern California book on the shelf. I met and spent a couple of days with Gene "Hughes" at his home, while he ran errands and he even arranged a couple of LAPD ride alongs for me. He was a good man and not having one of those books to remember him by hurts a bit.
I've run out of shelf space for all books and that includes the separate 2 shelf bookcase for radio books. Grove's books still contain some useful info, when the frequencies match the reallocation and are not the "split" 12.5 kHz frequencies. The location information might be useful, but with the addition of so many new repeaters it is no longer complete.
I also have the Robert Kelty/James E. Tunnel "Master Frequency File" book that covers a lot of federal information, with NTIA license listings as well, or at least partial license info. The covers are taped on. The binding is just beginning to show signs of failure.
These books might be helpful in looking at these NTIA documents. I'm going to have everything spread out on a table when I look over the document the OP provided here.
This is a great piece of information. The alphabet soup federal agency listings all on one list! I never thought of looking for one so thank you very much.
I've seen digital archives of some of those somewhere; maybe archive.org or some Google archive site?
Thanks, I might do some more searching. I really want a hard copy of one of the editions. It's purely a sentimental thing so a digital copy doesn't fully fit the bill.
Not sure if this is helpful but it's the best I can do with pdftotext. This version disregards the original formatting to make it "easier to read" per the documentation. Maybe it'll make it easier to parse with software too.@twosenses: That's really excellent! Searching for a freq is now instant instead of minutes.
Do you have any control over how it deals with spaces? The variable number of spaces between fields, that may be in the source document because of their silly use of a proportional font to display what should be columnar data, but without tabs for alignment, is proving to be a challenge to parse. No chance I can muster the will or energy to do it page-by-page as someone else above was doing (perhaps tongue-in-cheek
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Thanks, I looked around on both Amazon and ebay and decided I didn't need another book for a bookcase that is already overflowing. I have a later edition of Police Call Southern California and that is the book that got me interested in scanning anyway.
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Sadly the MARS folks listed their info with "too many to list" yet those of us local know some of those sites as Repeaters
A couple [two] of CAP Repeaters [148.1500 only] made it thru, like;y someone forgot to check a box
USCG Aux 150.7000 is a nice pool of PL tone's for each site, but much of District 1 is not included
A couple [two] of CAP Repeaters [148.1500 only] made it thru, like;y someone forgot to check a box
USCG Aux 150.7000 is a nice pool of PL tone's for each site, but much of District 1 is not included
Thanks to those who found this and parsed it into text. I've done a little work with regex on it, but nothing I can share yet. I'm afraid parsing it into a more normal set of tables is going to be a fair amount of work to understand all the scenarios presented in the Redbook chapter linked earlier, and how they are reflected in the data, assuming the application preparation rules translate reasonably into the master file format.
The *PRD elements are nice for documenting repeater inputs on high-band where the offsets are not standardized.
I'm surprised/entertained by the level of detail in the SUP field commentary.
There's lots of other interesting things in there, like the SNOTEL system that uses meteor scatter propagation on low-band (40.67/41.61). Anyone heard this?
It's nice to have a reference for the non-FCC callsigns (e.g. NWS 162.45 WWG21).
I wonder why USFS stuff (at least the VHF channels in SoCal) is missing, while other things that are seemingly more sensitive are present.
The lack of precision in the coords (1" ~= 30m) is disappointing, as it could otherwise help identify which buildings are likely federal at large sites (for those of us with a site-mapping fetish ).
I've done a little work with regex on it, but nothing I can share yet. I'm afraid parsing it into a more normal set of tables is going to be a fair amount of work to understand all the scenarios presented in the Redbook chapter linked earlier, and how they are reflected in the data, assuming the application preparation rules translate reasonably into the master file format.The *PRD elements are nice for documenting repeater inputs on high-band where the offsets are not standardized.
I'm surprised/entertained by the level of detail in the SUP field commentary.
There's lots of other interesting things in there, like the SNOTEL system that uses meteor scatter propagation on low-band (40.67/41.61). Anyone heard this?
It's nice to have a reference for the non-FCC callsigns (e.g. NWS 162.45 WWG21).
I wonder why USFS stuff (at least the VHF channels in SoCal) is missing, while other things that are seemingly more sensitive are present.
The lack of precision in the coords (1" ~= 30m) is disappointing, as it could otherwise help identify which buildings are likely federal at large sites (for those of us with a site-mapping fetish
).
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Yes, on SnoTel, it is a good set of frequencies to keep in there, for those interested in Low Band Opennings [Skip]
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As to the NWS Call Signs, they are also available at the NWS Site
As to mapping, my experience has been they are pretty Dead On when using Google Earth
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As to the NWS Call Signs, they are also available at the NWS Site
As to mapping, my experience has been they are pretty Dead On when using Google Earth
Thanks to those who found this and parsed it into text.
The *PRD elements are nice for documenting repeater inputs on high-band where the offsets are not standardized.
I'm surprised/entertained by the level of detail in the SUP field commentary.
There's lots of other interesting things in there, like the SNOTEL system that uses meteor scatter propagation on low-band (40.67/41.61). Anyone heard this?
It's nice to have a reference for the non-FCC callsigns (e.g. NWS 162.45 WWG21).
I wonder why USFS stuff (at least the VHF channels in SoCal) is missing, while other things that are seemingly more sensitive are present.
The lack of precision in the coords (1" ~= 30m) is disappointing, as it could otherwise help identify which buildings are likely federal at large sites (for those of us with a site-mapping fetish
ArkTex
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In the spirit of me having way too much time on my hands, I am now working to make a custom Google map with pins for all listings in the NTIA document.
Why?
Bc I'm a college student with too much free time and too much interest in finding patterns, that's why.
Why?
Bc I'm a college student with too much free time and too much interest in finding patterns, that's why.
You should consider becoming a fire investigator. Finding patterns and solving puzzles are where it's at.
ArkTex
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Currently in college to be an Emergency Manager, so, I guess I'm partly there.
Also proof the map is a thing:
