NW Ohio heads up for tomorrow

[jackj]

Better safe than sorry? Lets look at that.

1. Schools here went into lock down. Wouldn't let the students leave when the class day was over. Makes sense to keep them in one place that ISN'T a tornado shelter. That way one tornado can get ALL the kids.

2. My wife volunteers at a thrift store in town. The manager tried to stop people from leaving because a bad storm was supposed to hit.

3. Tornado watches were issued before the storm even entered the state. Tornado warnings were issued for areas as much as 70 miles from where the tornado was sighted.

4. High wind warnings had been in effect for 3 days before the storm got within 200 miles of Ohio.

Yes, tornadoes did cause damage in a few areas. Yes, there were high winds in a few areas that caused some damage. Yes, there were a few thunder storms. Yes, the possibility of severe weather existed over a large area of the nation. But is any of that a reason to get your panties in a bunch and blanket the entire area with watches? Face it, severe weather didn't show up in over 90% of the watch/warning areas and it was counter-productive to try to scare the general population.

 

[wa8pyr]

Perhaps NW Ohio didn't get hit as badly, but Central Ohio got it pretty good, and so did central Kentucky (where I happened to be visiting that day). I'd also point out that there is no way to definitely predict which areas will get hammered and which will slip through with no damage. But for a whim of the wind, your area could just as easily have been destroyed, and Central Ohio left unscathed.

I might also point out that most parents (many of whom work during the day) would certainly prefer that their children be reasonably safe at school where there is shelter in a sturdy structure rather than cut loose from school to fend for themselves with a line of high winds and tornadoes rambling through the state.

And remember, a tornado warning doesn't necessarily mean one has been sighted; it also means that conditions are highly favorable for the formation of tornadoes or that rotation has been seen on radar.

However, you're certainly entitled to your opinion and responsibility for your own actions; if you prefer to ignore the warnings and would like to get killed because of it, go ahead. We'll nominate you for a Darwin Award later.

Personally, I prefer to have the advance notice, and so does most of America.

'Nuf said.

Better safe than sorry? Lets look at that.

1. Schools here went into lock down. Wouldn't let the students leave when the class day was over. Makes sense to keep them in one place that ISN'T a tornado shelter. That way one tornado can get ALL the kids.

2. My wife volunteers at a thrift store in town. The manager tried to stop people from leaving because a bad storm was supposed to hit.

3. Tornado watches were issued before the storm even entered the state. Tornado warnings were issued for areas as much as 70 miles from where the tornado was sighted.

4. High wind warnings had been in effect for 3 days before the storm got within 200 miles of Ohio.

Yes, tornadoes did cause damage in a few areas. Yes, there were high winds in a few areas that caused some damage. Yes, there were a few thunder storms. Yes, the possibility of severe weather existed over a large area of the nation. But is any of that a reason to get your panties in a bunch and blanket the entire area with watches? Face it, severe weather didn't show up in over 90% of the watch/warning areas and it was counter-productive to try to scare the general population.

 

[ctpd845]

Perhaps NW Ohio didn't get hit as badly, but Central Ohio got it pretty good, and so did central Kentucky (where I happened to be visiting that day). I'd also point out that there is no way to definitely predict which areas will get hammered and which will slip through with no damage. But for a whim of the wind, your area could just as easily have been destroyed, and Central Ohio left unscathed.

I might also point out that most parents (many of whom work during the day) would certainly prefer that their children be reasonably safe at school where there is shelter in a sturdy structure rather than cut loose from school to fend for themselves with a line of high winds and tornadoes rambling through the state.

And remember, a tornado warning doesn't necessarily mean one has been sighted; it also means that conditions are highly favorable for the formation of tornadoes or that rotation has been seen on radar.

However, you're certainly entitled to your opinion and responsibility for your own actions; if you prefer to ignore the warnings and would like to get killed because of it, go ahead. We'll nominate you for a Darwin Award later.

Personally, I prefer to have the advance notice, and so does most of America.

'Nuf said.

I'm with Tom on this one. I'm guessing everybody here that is saying that the watches/warnings were uncalled for haven't had a brush with severe weather in some time. I live less than a mile from where a EF4 tornado that killed 7 touched down and I can tell you everybody in my neighborhood now takes theses watches/warnings more seriously. 3 of the people killed in the tornado were upstairs sleeping in their beds when the tornado struck and there was almost a 20 minute lead time from when the warning was issued until the tornado hit.

 

[radioscan]

The NWS gave 25 minutes lead time on this EF-2 Tornado that caused a lot of damage in Cridersville, Ohio.
I want you naysayers to stop by there and tell these folks how the NWS did not do the job right this past Tuesday.

 

[mdulrich]

The NWS gave 25 minutes lead time on this EF-2 Tornado that caused a lot of damage in Cridersville, Ohio.
I want you naysayers to stop by there and tell these folks how the NWS did not do the job right this past Tuesday.

And this lead time was from what they were seeing on radar, not from actual sightings and there were lots of spotters out. A Cridersville police officer was watching the storm and never saw the tornado, it was rain wrapped. The EMA Director in Auglaize County ended up spotting the tornado, but it was after the warning sirens were sounding. He then made sure the sirens continued to sound.

Mike

 

[rdale]

1. Schools here went into lock down. Wouldn't let the students leave when the class day was over. Makes sense to keep them in one place that ISN'T a tornado shelter. That way one tornado can get ALL the kids.

Most schools are MUCH safer in a tornado than typical homes. If you don't like that policy, complain to the school - not the forecasters.

2. My wife volunteers at a thrift store in town. The manager tried to stop people from leaving because a bad storm was supposed to hit.

First it's illegal to PREVENT people from leaving. If there is a Tornado Warning in process, it only makes sense to urge them to go to shelter.

3. Tornado watches were issued before the storm even entered the state. Tornado warnings were issued for areas as much as 70 miles from where the tornado was sighted.

That's the goal. WATCHES are issued well in advance of the threat, WARNINGS are issued when tornadoes become likely, and I can't find any evidence of a warning that was issued for a tornado 70 miles away.

4. High wind warnings had been in effect for 3 days before the storm got within 200 miles of Ohio.

Uhhh, wrong. A _watch_ was in effect. Methinks you need to refresh on the difference between a forecast / watch / warning.

Yes, tornadoes did cause damage in a few areas. Yes, there were high winds in a few areas that caused some damage. Yes, there were a few thunder storms. Yes, the possibility of severe weather existed over a large area of the nation. But is any of that a reason to get your panties in a bunch and blanket the entire area with watches?

When you total up the numbers, this was THE LARGEST tornado event in October history.

 

[cfr301]

That is incorrect.

Pressure Records: The October 26-27, 2010 Significant Extratropical Cyclone

Well with all your contacts and since your ALWAYS right tell the TV folks here in Ohio that their barometers are wrong and yours is right. Thanks

I Believe this is what they were talking about http://climate.umn.edu/doc/journal/low_pressure_101026.htm At the Time the Storm Passed Here 6 Miles South Of Cridersville the Pressure here was 29.27 I'm Betting it was a Bunch Lower in Cridersville Right then!

Most likely they were speaking of Lowest Pressure on Record Here Not In Florida or Entire Us..

 

[rdale]

At the Time the Storm Passed Here 6 Miles South Of Cridersville the Pressure here was 29.27 I'm Betting it was a Bunch Lower in Cridersville Right then!

The low pressure center was in Minnesota. It never passed anywhere near you.

Most likely they were speaking of Lowest Pressure on Record Here Not In Florida or Entire Us..

No, as the lowest pressure in Ohio was 28.28" during the Blizzard of 1978.

 

[cfr301]

The low pressure center was in Minnesota. It never passed anywhere near you.



No, as the lowest pressure in Ohio was 28.28" during the Blizzard of 1978.

Your Kidding?? I didn't Know that..Really???

 

[rdale]

Your Kidding?? I didn't Know that..Really???

No, I'm serious. You're right.

 

[radioscan]

Okay, the discussion has been made on both sides. Let's get back on track in a friendly manner or
take it to PM otherwise this thread will be closed.