So is there no PL for the 153.995 SAR channel?
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All repeaters utilize the 131.8 PL on the output. We vary input tones.
Very good. Thank you k2
I didn't think asking was an issue since we were discussing PL's...
Ask whatever you like, I'm not trying to censor you. It just seems that, based on some of your posts, you haven't looked at or searched the database. 153.995 has been in the database under Oswego County for quite some time with the 131.8 PL as "Pioneer SAR", yet you've asked about it a couple of times, and stated that it didn't appear in any search results.
Ask whatever you like, I'm not trying to censor you. It just seems that, based on some of your posts, you haven't looked at or searched the database. 153.995 has been in the database under Oswego County for quite some time with the 131.8 PL as "Pioneer SAR", yet you've asked about it a couple of times, and stated that it didn't appear in any search results.
And judging from your posts you're a little quick to jump on people for no reason. I already told you it shows no such thing when you search the db, by frequency.
FCC Licenses for 153.995 in the State of New York
Licensee Frequency Callsign Stat City County Svc
OSWEGO, COUNTY OF 153.99500000 WQWQ537 A PARISH OSWEGO PW
OSWEGO, COUNTY OF 153.99500000 WQWQ537 A BOYLSTON OSWEGO PW
OSWEGO, COUNTY OF 153.99500000 WQWQ537 A OSWEGO OSWEGO PW
OSWEGO, COUNTY OF 153.99500000 WQWQ537 A REDFIELD OSWEGO PW
OSWEGO, COUNTY OF 153.99500000 WQWQ537 A DEXTERVILLE OSWEGO PW
You spent more time telling me what I should've done instead of just answering as k2 was nice enough to do. I've used this site extensively to figure things out, which is what led to this thread to begin with, so it's really not a case of knowing where to look etc. This info about the 153 didn't come up at the beginning so anything I said before that is moot.
I appreciate your other info though.
But it is in the Radio Reference Database as GTR8000 stated?
Oswego County, New York (NY) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
Oswego County, Fire/EMS as in the attached image.
Oswego County, New York (NY) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
Oswego County, Fire/EMS as in the attached image.
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Yes, it is. That wasn't the point.
As stated, GTR used my quote to question what seemed to be an obvious answer to his. It says "frequency search" not NY db or Oswego search, and it's licensed to Oswego county not Pioneer S&R. Luckily, as stated, I'm well aware how to use the site/info to figure it out.
"Originally Posted by AuntEnvy
I don't see 153.995 listed for SAR in the frequency search.
You don't see 153.995 listed for what search?"
The conversation was proceeding just fine until my being questioned, and then continued. There was no need for the thread to get to this place to begin with and now someone else is jumping in to keep it going...?
Sorry, but nothing here is obvious. You seem confused, and I recall you being confused in the past, to which I tried to help you out by guiding you in how to search the database itself. You're searching through FCC data.
I asked you "You don't see 153.995 listed for what search?" for a reason, which was that had you been searching the RRDB itself, surely 153.995 PL 131.8 would've come right up in the results under Oswego County's page. Instead, you're posting search results of FCC data, not RRDB data. You're never going to find PL tones in the FCC data, obviously.
Seems like what we have here is a failure to communicate. I've been helpful to you in the past, and tried to be in this thread, but you decided to take my questioning as some sort of insult.
Anyway, I'm done here...no good deed goes unpunished.
I asked you "You don't see 153.995 listed for what search?" for a reason, which was that had you been searching the RRDB itself, surely 153.995 PL 131.8 would've come right up in the results under Oswego County's page. Instead, you're posting search results of FCC data, not RRDB data. You're never going to find PL tones in the FCC data, obviously.
Seems like what we have here is a failure to communicate. I've been helpful to you in the past, and tried to be in this thread, but you decided to take my questioning as some sort of insult.
Anyway, I'm done here...no good deed goes unpunished.
I'm well aware of how the site works whether it be frequency search or state-specific.
Not insulted at all. The other poster didn't seem to have a problem understanding my replies or answering me. You didn't appreciate my reply for some reason and decided to take all of this another direction. Your use of semantics doesn't help, which is why you appear confused. You did the same thing to the other poster by correcting him and others as well. I guess that's your thing. If this was so difficult for you, you shouldn't have replied. But I'm glad you decided to end this. Thanks for the help.
"If you don't have anything nice to say..."
So to get back on the topic of SAR Frequencies..... Remember that not all licenses will be licensed to a SAR team. SAR operates very different in many places of NYS. Some agencies such as CNY are very integral in the public safety community, while other areas of the state they are the unknown folks tromping thru the swamp at 4am. Because of this some of the frequencies teams utilize are legacy public safety channels when a county upgrades. There are many reasons to this, but alot of it is cost, and logistics. Try to get a 200 watt VHF ERP license in todays world 60 miles from Canada. Its almost impossible. So working with counties to re-use an old channel vs dropping the licence makes not only logical but financial sense for all those involved. Other than CNY most all SAR operates on VHF. Even though WSAR has multiple UHF repeater pairs licensed they rarely get used in CNY as we also have the CNYICC system to use. Being VHF is the standard for the NYS Forest Rangers and NYS Police it is the go to channel on any incident. Until those agencies change to other stuff I dont see SAR mving away from VHF. With that said there are small incidents that do happen on the CNYICC systems but normally a patch to VSAR16 is setup.
Hope that sheds some light on why you may not find a frequency licensed to a SAR group, but to a county they operate in or around.
Hope that sheds some light on why you may not find a frequency licensed to a SAR group, but to a county they operate in or around.
That certainly makes sense. Thank you kb2.
I believe they have a lot of extra portables for our trunked system and they've been used for special events so I would hope any S&R team would be afforded the same usage. They also seem to like the patch ability with state med 340 and statewide IA 370. I'm assuming they can only use a patch if the 911 center has that frequency available as opposed to just dialing up anything they want and plugging it in.
Hopefully it doesn't take some tragedy to get everyone on the same page as SOP but we all know that's usually the only way to make things happen.
I believe they have a lot of extra portables for our trunked system and they've been used for special events so I would hope any S&R team would be afforded the same usage. They also seem to like the patch ability with state med 340 and statewide IA 370. I'm assuming they can only use a patch if the 911 center has that frequency available as opposed to just dialing up anything they want and plugging it in.
Hopefully it doesn't take some tragedy to get everyone on the same page as SOP but we all know that's usually the only way to make things happen.
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