NYPD going encrypted?

[Priority-One]

I have lived in Harlem for the past 12 years, I live in the 25/28/32 combined and sometimes combined with 26/30. I hear lots and lots of open mics, mostly at night. When I lived in the 90/94 area of Brooklyn they'd get a lot of open mics during the day and shift change I noticed. I thought it was because they were changing batteries and readjusting the radios on their belts? Could be anything from a faulty PTT to just a sticky button that came in contact with sticky residue.
Anything is possible and I'm sure the dirtiest environment is gonna be the subways and the new APX7000 radios are now.
I do a lot of contract work in the tunnels and I know how disgusting and dirty it can be.

I've noticed that transit is mainly on the APX radios and i saw an EMS LT with one in midtown yesterday. I am assuming the EMS APX is for DoITT uhf trs.

The equipment seems to frequently change but I know that the actual system and Architecture won't change in the next 20-30 years.
It'd be an impossible, financially inconceivable nightmare.
Why fix what ain't broke?


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[4-crime]

They are going with the Vertex VXP824. Just found out today they started issuing them to Cops in all commands. Starting in manhattan at least from what I was able to find out.

 

[55engine]

So no more nypd to hare soon?

 

[4-crime]

So no more nypd to hare soon?

No, didn't say that. They are just getting new radios.

As stated before, NYPD does have a handful of encrypted channels (IAB, CW-4 etc) but everything else is in the clear.

 

[itopia]

I just heard new chatter than SOD will be going digital and possibly encrypted this year. Can anyone confirm? Thnaks.

 

[ff026]

I just heard new chatter than SOD will be going digital and possibly encrypted this year. Can anyone confirm? Thnaks.

NO. Analog simulcast.

 

[SCPD]

Have seen pictures of regular patrol around the Web is in apx 6000s, uhf and some you can tell are uhf 7000s/700.

 

[SCPD]

Dispatchers in the southeast district in Chicago quite frequently (like 8-15 times each day) have to make such useless, frantic announcements:
I suspect myself that most often the proximate cause is the officers having so much crap on their belts that the PTT button is getting wedged when they cram themselves behind the steering wheel. :roll:

What puzzles me is that often the offending radio will hold the repeater for more than ten minutes, leading me to wonder just how long their radio's TOT is set!

Allot of fire and pd's have no tot set believe it or not. Safety reasons as funny as it sounds with the ptt keying and hanging.

To the other op yes motorola has done and bent backwards for nyc. Custom runs to holding into models way longer then other agencies would get. After all money talks and you know what walks.have enough of it you can control what you want get what you want.

If a trs was built it could be done. Believe it or not. I belive by the time this would need to come technology would be at a more easier level to accomplish. Though it is nice to see a city as large as nyc doing conventional snd running voting systems per borough it shows a trs wouldn't be needed for most cities if done properly.

 

[ff026]

The voting is done on each zone not per boro.

 

[KA2ZEY]

There's another thread stating that NYPD SOD and NYFD are going digital encrypted. Is this true? Will I have to sell my scanner?

 

[Thunderknight]

There's another thread stating that NYPD SOD and NYFD are going digital encrypted. Is this true? Will I have to sell my scanner?

I doubt anyone posting here knows for sure. I'd keep the scanner till it really happens

 

[Priority-One]

I want to believe it’s a possibility, but being born and raised in the city and now residing in queens, I eat and breath scanning in nyc. I often here
I/O over the precincts from SOD on a daily basis, and I’d believe SOD dispatch would go digital but routine calls over local precincts would have remain clear. I don’t think that encryption would be widely used unless every single frequency in all boros went encrypted. There’d be so much user end confusion.
But that’s just my opinion. You also would have to account for all the other agencies who require access to specific nypd frequencies who are analog. We shall see


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[richee2000]

according to the other thread on here, its being reported SOD will be 100% Encrypted , within 2 months , and that is the reason SOD is now on CW4, due to the changover which includes a 6 site simulcast to P25. "from reliable sources". Anyone else have better intel?

 

[Danny37]

I have a friend that works as a dispatch supervisor at NYPD call center, he said he knows nothing about the encryption. He did say that during high profile incidents radio silence is common now as things are to be "over landline only"

 

[richee2000]

I have a friend that works as a dispatch supervisor at NYPD call center, he said he knows nothing about the encryption. He did say that during high profile incidents radio silence is common now as things are to be "over landline only"

Well going full encryption would eliminate the problem of having to go radio silence during high-profile incidents... And would also allow NYPD to interface with other government agencies that use p25 encryption. It would also eliminate all these open carrier problems and would eliminate people using s o d on their private Portables unauthorized Transmissions. Unfortunately it would also eliminate all of us...

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[Archie]

Just wondering....

So since the lower end, but effective form of encryption is practically given almost free of charge by vendors , why hasn't everybody else implemented it ??

And when SOD goes dark, all the other responding pct units, etc., will still be in the clear, so you will hear those calls...correct ??

 

[Danny37]

There's only one person that I know of that stated SOD will be encrypted. I'll try to hold my breath right now until we have other reports.

Also doesn't P25 have a harder time penetrating buildings and such compared to analog?

 

[richee2000]

There's only one person that I know of that stated SOD will be encrypted. I'll try to hold my breath right now until we have other reports.

Also doesn't P25 have a harder time penetrating buildings and such compared to analog?

And maybe that's why they're doing a 6 Zone simulcast. They already have a great infrastructure for the voting receivers

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[pro106import]

Did some searching on the FCC site- cannot find any sign of P25 emissions (8K10F1E) or any of the licences recently modified to support it. The person to ask is the licencee coorodinator if someone wants to give him a call:
As listed on the FCC licence:
NEW YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT
PAUL S LUCIDO
50-16 59th PLACE
WOODSIDE, NY 11377
ATTN FCC LICENSE COORDINATOR
(718)565-4403

PAUL.LUCIDO@NYPD.ORG

 

[actionnewsservice]

NYPD SOD

As of Friday Jan 5, 2018 NYPD SOD was switched over to Citywide 4 for the next 2 months. I am waiting too find out when it returns to 470.8375 will it be in the clear.