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[troubleshooter1]

GWTC199 wrote: ' "Husky 5" I would bet was an E-3 Sentry AWACS radar plane, probably tasked with CAP fighter control. Being as there was a British chap onboard I would assume its a NATO E-3. '

No, it was definitely an air-to-air refueling operation. I listened all afternoon to pilots (Sonic 21, Sonic 22 and others) requesting so many thousand pounds of fuel, Husky 5 instructing them to approach and leave, etc. According to CC-130 Hercules | Aircraft | Canada’s Air Force the only aircraft we have with a tanker capability is the CC-130 Hercules. "In the tactical AAR role, it can transfer between 1000 and 2000 lbs of fuel per minute, and can refuel the CF-18 Hornet in less than five minutes."

I also heard reference to some aircraft with "Angel" tactical callsigns, although I didn't hear them myself. I'm told AF-1 never goes anywhere without a pair of USAF F-16's as escorts, so perhaps that is what was being referred to.

What does "CAP" refer to in the statement regarding "CAP fighter control?"

 

[pathalogical]

CAP - Civil Air Patrol or Combat Air Patrol.

 

[Jay911]

You don't think Husky could have been the AWACS air traffic controller per se, vectoring planes into and out of the refueling track?

 

[radioman253]

RCMP NAC codes

I laughed when I saw that NAC pop up on my PSR500 for the first time last year.
Their P25 channels in the Toronto area seem to all have the same NAC of "FED". All appear to be 100% encrypted.
421.9375 RPTR
425.8875 RPTR
425.9125 SIMPLEX

 

[DaveH]

Their P25 channels in the Toronto area seem to all have the same NAC of "FED".

What is the U.S. Federal Reserve doing in Canada using our RCMP channels??

GBGL, Dave

 

[gwtc199]

GWTC199 wrote: ' "Husky 5" I would bet was an E-3 Sentry AWACS radar plane, probably tasked with CAP fighter control. Being as there was a British chap onboard I would assume its a NATO E-3. '

No, it was definitely an air-to-air refueling operation. I listened all afternoon to pilots (Sonic 21, Sonic 22 and others) requesting so many thousand pounds of fuel, Husky 5 instructing them to approach and leave, etc. According to CC-130 Hercules | Aircraft | Canada’s Air Force the only aircraft we have with a tanker capability is the CC-130 Hercules. "In the tactical AAR role, it can transfer between 1000 and 2000 lbs of fuel per minute, and can refuel the CF-18 Hornet in less than five minutes."

I also heard reference to some aircraft with "Angel" tactical callsigns, although I didn't hear them myself. I'm told AF-1 never goes anywhere without a pair of USAF F-16's as escorts, so perhaps that is what was being referred to.

What does "CAP" refer to in the statement regarding "CAP fighter control?"

Well the fuel info would have been helpful earlier, and don't forget there is and Air Refueling Wing based at Selfridge ANGB near Detroit, which is more likely since a KC-135 has the proper equipment to refuel USAF planes. Our CC-130s don't have that equipment.

And CAP refers to Combat Air Patrol, if any unauthorized aircraft would have broken the no fly zone, fighter jets wold intercept them and either force them down or turn them around

 

[troubleshooter1]

As far as I could tell, only refueling was discussed, not general air operations. And why would USAF fighters (controlled by an AWACS and refueled by an ANG KC-135 from Michigen) be enforcing a Canadian airspace restricted zone? They have no jusiisdiction in Canada. No, these were CF-18's from Bagotville, and the only way we have to refuel them in the air is with our C-130 Hercules. I was here listening live in real time all day, and I know what I heard. Sonic 21 and Sonic 22 were returning to Bagotville after they were done over Ottawa that day.

 

[Jay911]

We've got a terrific find of an RCMP NAC of FED which I'm going to try and confirm next time I hear activity on the local surveillance channels but that seems to be it.

Sorry for the thread necromancy, but I have just confirmed the "FED" NAC here in Calgary on 421.9875. Further to that, I have been informed that that particular freq is not RCMP, but another federal service with an interest in security and intelligence.

And of course, all comms are encrypted.

 

[gwtc199]

And why would USAF fighters (controlled by an AWACS and refueled by an ANG KC-135 from Michigen) be enforcing a Canadian airspace restricted zone? They have no jusiisdiction in Canada.

The same reason the Secret Service protects the President when he is anywhere, do you think they would let RCMP or Ottawa PD protect him??
They don't trust anyone else near him or his airplane.

Oh and they can fly up here, just as we can fly down there, its called an Armed Forces Support Agreement. And if you look at a map Selfridge ANGB is so close to Canada that the aircraft have to fly into Canadian airspace just to land. I regularly see KC-135s, F-16s, and A-10s over my house.