AndrewC75 said:
Well that answers that question BUT what I said still applies and holds true with the newer P25 systems. We're going to start seeing more and more P25 systems doing this in the near future.....
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Well that answers that question BUT what I said still applies and holds true with the newer P25 systems. We're going to start seeing more and more P25 systems doing this in the near future.....
Thanks for the info. I stand corrected - I thought SAFE-T was P25, good thing I didn't place a bet on it though.
New version of UASD now available for the BCD996T.
This update adds additional error handling to prevent unexpected program termination.
http://www.uniden.com/index/downloads.cfm?product=BCD996T
This update adds additional error handling to prevent unexpected program termination.
http://www.uniden.com/index/downloads.cfm?product=BCD996T
Thanks for the update, Paul!
Minor firmware issue redux
Also, unsurprisingly, the GLG command is similarly broken: When the scanner is Delaying on a conventional channel, repeated queries to GLG continue to report the info during the delay period (i.e., GLG reports the channel info during and after transmission, as long as the channel Delay has not yet run out). But when the scanner is Delaying on a trunked talkgroup, queries to GLG fail to report the info during the delay period (i.e., GLG only reports the talkgroup when someone is actually talking)
...R
wm8s said:
Also, unsurprisingly, the GLG command is similarly broken: When the scanner is Delaying on a conventional channel, repeated queries to GLG continue to report the info during the delay period (i.e., GLG reports the channel info during and after transmission, as long as the channel Delay has not yet run out). But when the scanner is Delaying on a trunked talkgroup, queries to GLG fail to report the info during the delay period (i.e., GLG only reports the talkgroup when someone is actually talking)
...R
BOBRR
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"Priority" Question
Hello:
Regarding the USAD software.
Am I correct that the Priority channels checking, even if channel(s)
are put to ON in the listings, will not function as Priority Channels
unless the Radio\Priority Mode is ALSO checked in the Miscellaneous
Tab in the Config. Editor ? (just noticed it)
I can only find an option for "Weather Alert Priority" in the software.
Where are the options for selecting the Weather options
such as:
Alert Only
SAME 1-5
ALL FIPS
Thanks,
Bob
Hello:
Regarding the USAD software.
Am I correct that the Priority channels checking, even if channel(s)
are put to ON in the listings, will not function as Priority Channels
unless the Radio\Priority Mode is ALSO checked in the Miscellaneous
Tab in the Config. Editor ? (just noticed it)
I can only find an option for "Weather Alert Priority" in the software.
Where are the options for selecting the Weather options
such as:
Alert Only
SAME 1-5
ALL FIPS
Thanks,
Bob
BOBRR
Member
APCO 25 Entering Questions
Hello,
Regarding APCO 25, and how to enter them:
a. Am I correct that ALL of APCO 25 is always digital (but might be trunked or non-trunked) ?
b. I enter freq's from any lists that are labeled as "APCO 25 - Conventional" as simply "Conventional" Systems, even though digital ?
c. And for the ones that are labeled as "APCO 25 -Trunked": I would have to create a totally different System for these, and put this System in as MOT II / P25 ?
(So, the Conventional ones would not be mixed with the Trunked ones in a single System)
d. Question regarding the Audio options: seems like the simple thing is just to select "ALL" for everything, if I want to hear most everything and anything.
Any reasons or situations whey this isn't a smart choice ?
Thanks,
Bob
Hello,
Regarding APCO 25, and how to enter them:
a. Am I correct that ALL of APCO 25 is always digital (but might be trunked or non-trunked) ?
b. I enter freq's from any lists that are labeled as "APCO 25 - Conventional" as simply "Conventional" Systems, even though digital ?
c. And for the ones that are labeled as "APCO 25 -Trunked": I would have to create a totally different System for these, and put this System in as MOT II / P25 ?
(So, the Conventional ones would not be mixed with the Trunked ones in a single System)
d. Question regarding the Audio options: seems like the simple thing is just to select "ALL" for everything, if I want to hear most everything and anything.
Any reasons or situations whey this isn't a smart choice ?
Thanks,
Bob
a, b, and c, are correct.
d. If you have an agency that runs CTCSS or DCS and you want to limit reception to only the targeted agency, you'll need to set the channel to analog. If the agency you want to listen to runs P25 but there are other analog users of the frequency in the area, you'll want to set the channel to digital to keep out the undesired signals.
d. If you have an agency that runs CTCSS or DCS and you want to limit reception to only the targeted agency, you'll need to set the channel to analog. If the agency you want to listen to runs P25 but there are other analog users of the frequency in the area, you'll want to set the channel to digital to keep out the undesired signals.
BOBRR
Member
Question On Non-CC Frequencies
Hello:
Thanks so much for previous help. Really appreciate it. Have done lots and lots of reading, but these kind of querstions come up.
Think I understand the basics of what trunking is, but am uncertain
regarding the following aspects of.
Let's say I have the CC's ( max of 4/System apparently) programmed in.
No Talkgroups programmed in.
CC-Only used.
No problem here, this is basically what I want to do.
But, many listings list several other frequencies, along with the frequencies designated as CC's, that are Not CC's. From my readings, these are, I think, called Voice, or Traffic, Frequencies.
A. My questions pertain to these, Non-CC frequencies:
Again, for CC-Only mode:
a. Is it that these "other" freq's are what the CC uses and assigns for the particular
conversation ?
b. If so, is there (ever) any reason to list these also ? Why ?
If I should, are they actually decoded by the scanner when CC-Only is used ?
When, after the listed CC's is gone thru, or... ?
B. Didn't want to make this post too long, and presume on anyone's time, but I guess I might as well also ask what I am also having trouble with:
In the Uniden supplied file, Area-APCO-25:
I see that all the frequencies in this file are put in as "Conventional".
Aren't most, if not all, digital APCO-25 systems Trunked systems ?
How does one know, if you find a digital APCO-25 frequency in some list, but it
doesn't say if it is Conventional or Trunked ?
C. In the Uniden supplied File "PDs_Trunkd, misc." which is a MOT II file.
I see everything is listed in "Sites", as Site 1, Site 2, etc.
There are No "Groups".
Is it that with MOT II you don't need Groups, but you can list everything under Sites as they apparently do here ? What's the philosophy behind this; can you explain a bit more on this e.g., when you might want to use Groups, when actually required, etc. ?
Thanks,
Bob
Hello:
Thanks so much for previous help. Really appreciate it. Have done lots and lots of reading, but these kind of querstions come up.
Think I understand the basics of what trunking is, but am uncertain
regarding the following aspects of.
Let's say I have the CC's ( max of 4/System apparently) programmed in.
No Talkgroups programmed in.
CC-Only used.
No problem here, this is basically what I want to do.
But, many listings list several other frequencies, along with the frequencies designated as CC's, that are Not CC's. From my readings, these are, I think, called Voice, or Traffic, Frequencies.
A. My questions pertain to these, Non-CC frequencies:
Again, for CC-Only mode:
a. Is it that these "other" freq's are what the CC uses and assigns for the particular
conversation ?
b. If so, is there (ever) any reason to list these also ? Why ?
If I should, are they actually decoded by the scanner when CC-Only is used ?
When, after the listed CC's is gone thru, or... ?
B. Didn't want to make this post too long, and presume on anyone's time, but I guess I might as well also ask what I am also having trouble with:
In the Uniden supplied file, Area-APCO-25:
I see that all the frequencies in this file are put in as "Conventional".
Aren't most, if not all, digital APCO-25 systems Trunked systems ?
How does one know, if you find a digital APCO-25 frequency in some list, but it
doesn't say if it is Conventional or Trunked ?
C. In the Uniden supplied File "PDs_Trunkd, misc." which is a MOT II file.
I see everything is listed in "Sites", as Site 1, Site 2, etc.
There are No "Groups".
Is it that with MOT II you don't need Groups, but you can list everything under Sites as they apparently do here ? What's the philosophy behind this; can you explain a bit more on this e.g., when you might want to use Groups, when actually required, etc. ?
Thanks,
Bob
a. Yes. Also, since there can only be one active CC per site at any one time, the alternate CC's are used as VC's (voice channels) when not in use as a CC. The CC typically alternates on a regular schedule (like every day at midnight, every Sunday at midnight, or similar).
b. No need to program them in. The scanner uses the info on the CC to go to the correct frequency for each transmission.
B. APCO-25 is a suite of standards for digital communications. Part of the suite defines a standard method for encoding and decoding audio to/from digital. This part can be used on a conventional channel, on a Talk Group for an otherwise non-APCO-25 compliant system (Grand Prairie, TX is one such example) and must be used on APCO-25 Trunked systems (those systems use another part of the standards that defines the trunking Control Channel methods).
C. Sites define the radio frequencies and other site-level settings. Groups define the channels in use on the system and are unrelated to the radio frequencies used. Channels on a trunked system are identified by Talk Group ID's (TGID). When a Talk Group becomes active, the trunk controller for the site temporarily assigns the TGID to one of the site's Voice Channel frequencies. When the comms on that TGID end, the VC frequency is released for reuse by any other active TGID.
If you want to scan particular TGID's (i.e. Police Dispatch, Fire Dispatch, etc), then you must program those TGID's into channels (and channels are collected within channel groups).
b. No need to program them in. The scanner uses the info on the CC to go to the correct frequency for each transmission.
B. APCO-25 is a suite of standards for digital communications. Part of the suite defines a standard method for encoding and decoding audio to/from digital. This part can be used on a conventional channel, on a Talk Group for an otherwise non-APCO-25 compliant system (Grand Prairie, TX is one such example) and must be used on APCO-25 Trunked systems (those systems use another part of the standards that defines the trunking Control Channel methods).
C. Sites define the radio frequencies and other site-level settings. Groups define the channels in use on the system and are unrelated to the radio frequencies used. Channels on a trunked system are identified by Talk Group ID's (TGID). When a Talk Group becomes active, the trunk controller for the site temporarily assigns the TGID to one of the site's Voice Channel frequencies. When the comms on that TGID end, the VC frequency is released for reuse by any other active TGID.
If you want to scan particular TGID's (i.e. Police Dispatch, Fire Dispatch, etc), then you must program those TGID's into channels (and channels are collected within channel groups).
I'm having a senior moment. Is the total number of channels in a trunk system equal to control channels + voice channels + talkgroups? Or can you have up to 250 talk groups in addition to the number of control/voice channels?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Hi,
What are the odds that the 996 can/will send position data by NMEA packets or some other format to a computer? That might sound outrageous, but envision this if you will: GPS feeding the scanner via the back control port, and scanner feeding into a computer via the front control port (and headphone/audio jack, for recording the audio, of course). If you could somehow pass on the GPS data to the computer, not only could the computer figure out where frequency XYZ was received at (kind of like NetStumbler et al does for WiFi networks), but also allow your computer to run programs like nRoute or another moving-map utility.
Hm? Hm? It'd sure be neat if it was possible.
What are the odds that the 996 can/will send position data by NMEA packets or some other format to a computer? That might sound outrageous, but envision this if you will: GPS feeding the scanner via the back control port, and scanner feeding into a computer via the front control port (and headphone/audio jack, for recording the audio, of course). If you could somehow pass on the GPS data to the computer, not only could the computer figure out where frequency XYZ was received at (kind of like NetStumbler et al does for WiFi networks), but also allow your computer to run programs like nRoute or another moving-map utility.
Hm? Hm? It'd sure be neat if it was possible.
STiMULi
Member
Jay said:Hi,
What are the odds that the 996 can/will send position data by NMEA packets or some other format to a computer? That might sound outrageous, but envision this if you will: GPS feeding the scanner via the back control port, and scanner feeding into a computer via the front control port (and headphone/audio jack, for recording the audio, of course). If you could somehow pass on the GPS data to the computer, not only could the computer figure out where frequency XYZ was received at (kind of like NetStumbler et al does for WiFi networks), but also allow your computer to run programs like nRoute or another moving-map utility.
Hm? Hm? It'd sure be neat if it was possible.
It does that, in a way, by using the close call feature. The autonaming when store in the intercept uses the LAT and LON of the intercept as received by the GPS input to the radio.
You just need to translate it later.
As far as a netstumbler type set up that is a good idea and probably could be done in software. It would be a great feature to add to the logging of the Butel product ARC996.
ofd8001 said:
AFAIK, the 250 TG memory is separate and unaffected from everything else.
Uniden BC-996T Mobile Mounting Brackets
I posted this on the Yahoogroup forums, but here goes for the folks here also:
I emailed Uniden about additional mobile mounting brackets for the BCD996T. Today I received word that they will be $6.77 each, but they won't be available for another month or two. The part numbers are HBCT2C5621Z---Mounting Bracket and GMSC405736A----Mounting Screws
I posted this on the Yahoogroup forums, but here goes for the folks here also:
I emailed Uniden about additional mobile mounting brackets for the BCD996T. Today I received word that they will be $6.77 each, but they won't be available for another month or two. The part numbers are HBCT2C5621Z---Mounting Bracket and GMSC405736A----Mounting Screws
Uniden ESP20 External Speaker
I was looking at possibly getting one or more Uniden ESP20 external speakers to use with my Uniden Bearcat BC996T. I am just wondering if anybody here is using this speaker and how well it works out for you.
http://www.uniden.com/store/accdetail.cfm?item=ESP20
http://www.electronicsoutpost.com/cbspeakers.htm
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/4402
I was looking at possibly getting one or more Uniden ESP20 external speakers to use with my Uniden Bearcat BC996T. I am just wondering if anybody here is using this speaker and how well it works out for you.
http://www.uniden.com/store/accdetail.cfm?item=ESP20
http://www.electronicsoutpost.com/cbspeakers.htm
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/4402
Jay said:
See BCD-996T Protocol Reference Manual, page 27:
---------------------------------------------------------------
<COMMAND GGA>
Get GGA Data from GPS
Controller → Radio
① GGA[¥r]
Radio → Controller
① GGA,[GGA_DATA][¥r]
[GGA_DATA] : The new GGA Data which the scanner received. ($GPGGA – checksum )
*If the scanner cannot receive GGA data, it returns only “,” to controller.
---------------------------------------------------------------
<COMMAND RMC>
Get RMC Data from GPS
Controller → Radio
① RMC[¥r]
Radio → Controller
① RMC,[RMC_DATA][¥r]
[RMC_DATA] : The new RMC data which the scanner received. ($GPRMC – checksum )
*If the scanner cannot receive RMC data, it returns only “,” to controller.
---------------------------------------------------------------
drsouth
Member
GPS Radius Settings
Does anyone else find the default settings of 10 or 20 miles right at the verge of being annoying while site trunking? Down here in the low country of South Carolina, My mobile NMO antennas work just fine, but I've seen where 20 miles is not always wanted, or intelligible and 10 miles is just too small for smartnet sites (I get blackout spots unless I hold on a t/g before it locks out)
I've tried editing the .USD files to force them to a 15 mile radius which would work so much better for my use, and the radio of course is smart enough to force it up to 20. Any chances that at a later date, the UASD and scanner firmware will accept different ranges?
I've attached a model of my area with the coordinates of the cells having a 15 mile range ring as an idea of the overlapping coverage.
Thanks in advance for your thought and comments,
David
Does anyone else find the default settings of 10 or 20 miles right at the verge of being annoying while site trunking? Down here in the low country of South Carolina, My mobile NMO antennas work just fine, but I've seen where 20 miles is not always wanted, or intelligible and 10 miles is just too small for smartnet sites (I get blackout spots unless I hold on a t/g before it locks out)
I've tried editing the .USD files to force them to a 15 mile radius which would work so much better for my use, and the radio of course is smart enough to force it up to 20. Any chances that at a later date, the UASD and scanner firmware will accept different ranges?
I've attached a model of my area with the coordinates of the cells having a 15 mile range ring as an idea of the overlapping coverage.
Thanks in advance for your thought and comments,
David
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Trying to get it programmed
Just got my 996 but i can't for the life of me get my local p25 system to work.
http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&sid=195
That is the system of which I speak. I've used the software to enter the system, site info (for now I just have all the channels of both sites entered. I also have TGIDs for all of the fire entered and I'm hearing nothing on ID scan or ID search.
What have I done wrong?
Just got my 996 but i can't for the life of me get my local p25 system to work.
http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&sid=195
That is the system of which I speak. I've used the software to enter the system, site info (for now I just have all the channels of both sites entered. I also have TGIDs for all of the fire entered and I'm hearing nothing on ID scan or ID search.
What have I done wrong?
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