I try to use tuner12 that doesn't work keeps going and going and my mic/line in is not disabled nothing is muted. I try all kinds of ways use to work I didn't have nothing hooked up to line in I have the fire tones and I can play them back no problem just the counter is not working. and the counter website people post on here doesn't work.
Official Fire Tone-Out Discussion
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JHaislet said:
It would be easier to load the sound file into a program that can show the audio frequencies within the modulation, such as CoolEdit and others.
I have a shinwa SC425YB, and looking for programmingcable to this one, and software, i am allso looking for pinout to mic (RJ45)
and the plugg at the back of the radio to connect a speaker.
I mannage to get two repeaters with this radios,
it is 2 SC425YB within those 2 repeaters, it is 4 radios.
It was NMT 450MHz basestations.
ANYBODY, contact me at (catopett at start dot no) or 004748301413
and the plugg at the back of the radio to connect a speaker.
I mannage to get two repeaters with this radios,
it is 2 SC425YB within those 2 repeaters, it is 4 radios.
It was NMT 450MHz basestations.
ANYBODY, contact me at (catopett at start dot no) or 004748301413
Does anyone have any fire tone out Franklin Park area or Chicago FD thank you
You may want to post this on the IL forum or CARMA Yahoo group.
bravo14 said:
Go to the CARMA Yahoogroups page at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/carmachicago/ and select Databases, we have over 400 records in the Tone Outs database there.
I did that also in ILL also wasn't to sure if somone had it here or there.
Okay, I give. I usually do not bother to post on the forums because I am pretty good at figuring scanners out.
What I don't understand is the point of having this Tone Out function. I understand the concept, but I do not understand why anyone would bother having it activated.
I imagine most of the registered users on RR are scanner freaks. We like to listen to all the action! What circumstances would make it so you would put your $500+ scanner into Tone Out Standby Mode, and not hear what else is going on out there?
I am a member of a volunteer fire department. I was excited to get the 396 when it came out, figuring I could scan while having my scanner alert me when my fire dept gets toned out. I now realize that can't be done (btw, any Uniden promo or advertising conveniently glosses over this fact).
Even when I am in a situation where I don't want to listen to ALL that is going on, I still like to hear all the calls in my county. I would think most of us would.
For those that need to hear just their departments, you get a pager, a $50 pager. These will not only alert you to your own department, but a flick of a switch lets you monitor all the activity on the pager frequency.
In a nutshell, it seems to me that those who shell out $500+ for a scanner will rarely use it in Tone Out Mode, because those that spend that kind of dough are scanner enthusiasts, and don't want to limit themselves to leaving the scanner on standby mode.
Of course, it is a distinct possibilty that I may be missing something. I am interested in hearing HOW people are using the Tone Out function. To me, it is the most worthless function of the 396 and 996.
What I don't understand is the point of having this Tone Out function. I understand the concept, but I do not understand why anyone would bother having it activated.
I imagine most of the registered users on RR are scanner freaks. We like to listen to all the action! What circumstances would make it so you would put your $500+ scanner into Tone Out Standby Mode, and not hear what else is going on out there?
I am a member of a volunteer fire department. I was excited to get the 396 when it came out, figuring I could scan while having my scanner alert me when my fire dept gets toned out. I now realize that can't be done (btw, any Uniden promo or advertising conveniently glosses over this fact).
Even when I am in a situation where I don't want to listen to ALL that is going on, I still like to hear all the calls in my county. I would think most of us would.
For those that need to hear just their departments, you get a pager, a $50 pager. These will not only alert you to your own department, but a flick of a switch lets you monitor all the activity on the pager frequency.
In a nutshell, it seems to me that those who shell out $500+ for a scanner will rarely use it in Tone Out Mode, because those that spend that kind of dough are scanner enthusiasts, and don't want to limit themselves to leaving the scanner on standby mode.
Of course, it is a distinct possibilty that I may be missing something. I am interested in hearing HOW people are using the Tone Out function. To me, it is the most worthless function of the 396 and 996.
oregontreehugger
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1) A scanner with the tone-out feature is not a substitute for a fire pager, ever.
I believe in using the right tool for the job -- if someone is alerted via a pager for their course of employment or volunteer work (police, fire, EMS, SAR, etc.); that person should use what the department has officially issued them for that purpose.
The scanner is made to scan and pickup lots of radio traffic; the pager is made to pick up very little and do it very well.
I see a scanner with a tone-out feature as only supplementing the pager role. Such as being kept on in another room in the house, business, or wherever. Maybe it could be used to keep other family members informed of various calls. Or pick up the random stray call that doesn't make it to the pager. Or keep neighboring departments aware of nearby "big" calls.
2) A scanner with the tone-out feature is a fun little extra for the hobbyist or news person.
Sometimes it's nice to leave on the local agency's tone-outs when you don't really want to be disturbed for every single call. I could see news agencies also using the feature; only going to the larger calls and ignoring the other smaller calls.
It's also a great learning tool. I knew very little about how tone-outs were dispatched. Now I'm happy to say I know a little more.
Overall, I think the tone-out feature is exactly that; just a feature. No different than an attenuator, alpha tags, CTCSS/DCS, GPS location support, etc. Sometimes you will use a feature, sometimes you won't.
I for one am glad Uniden included the fire tone-out ability. Just makes a nice product that much more useful.
My long-winded .02 opinion.
I believe in using the right tool for the job -- if someone is alerted via a pager for their course of employment or volunteer work (police, fire, EMS, SAR, etc.); that person should use what the department has officially issued them for that purpose.
The scanner is made to scan and pickup lots of radio traffic; the pager is made to pick up very little and do it very well.
I see a scanner with a tone-out feature as only supplementing the pager role. Such as being kept on in another room in the house, business, or wherever. Maybe it could be used to keep other family members informed of various calls. Or pick up the random stray call that doesn't make it to the pager. Or keep neighboring departments aware of nearby "big" calls.
2) A scanner with the tone-out feature is a fun little extra for the hobbyist or news person.
Sometimes it's nice to leave on the local agency's tone-outs when you don't really want to be disturbed for every single call. I could see news agencies also using the feature; only going to the larger calls and ignoring the other smaller calls.
It's also a great learning tool. I knew very little about how tone-outs were dispatched. Now I'm happy to say I know a little more.
Overall, I think the tone-out feature is exactly that; just a feature. No different than an attenuator, alpha tags, CTCSS/DCS, GPS location support, etc. Sometimes you will use a feature, sometimes you won't.
I for one am glad Uniden included the fire tone-out ability. Just makes a nice product that much more useful.
My long-winded .02 opinion.
Where do you get a $50 pager? All the prices I've seen are in the $300-$500 range.
I use my FTO every night to wait for an all-call (structure fire) from my local department. I don't want to wake up for an 82-y/o female that needs a lift assist or a possible trash can at 4 in the morning, so this feature is EXACTLY what I want.
I use my FTO every night to wait for an all-call (structure fire) from my local department. I don't want to wake up for an 82-y/o female that needs a lift assist or a possible trash can at 4 in the morning, so this feature is EXACTLY what I want.
bravo14 said:
Worked great for me just pulled and decoded 3 tones instead of 2.
JHaislet
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Here you go.
Worked for me too. You use tuner12 to CAPTURE the tones, and then use wtune.exe to actually EXTRACT the tunes once you pipe the audio back into the line in / mic port.
You HAVE to pipe the line out/speaker (usually green) out BACK INTO the computer via the line in/mic in port (usually a red colored port).
The software (wtune) only listens on the line in/mic in. Also, open up the Windows audio settings (double-click on the little grey speaker next to the clock) and make sure your line in/mic in is unmuted. I think Windows by default MUTES all line in & mic inputs so you don't hear feedback in your speakers or mic hum.
Also, you HAVE to use a separate player to play back the tones for wtune or whatever program you're using. The audio files I saved from the scanner were .wav, so I used Sound Recorder (Start>Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder) to both crop the recording and to play back the recording for wtune to tell me the Hz. Most computers also have Windows Media Player or Apple’s Quicktime Player, both will play back .wav files just fine.
I personally used wtune and had good luck with it, while using Sound Recorder to play back the tones.
BTW, you'll need a male-male 1/8 mini-jack cable to pipe/loop the output back into the input/mic port. It should be the same cable you used to record the tones off the scanner.
Worked for me too. You use tuner12 to CAPTURE the tones, and then use wtune.exe to actually EXTRACT the tunes once you pipe the audio back into the line in / mic port.
You HAVE to pipe the line out/speaker (usually green) out BACK INTO the computer via the line in/mic in port (usually a red colored port).
The software (wtune) only listens on the line in/mic in. Also, open up the Windows audio settings (double-click on the little grey speaker next to the clock) and make sure your line in/mic in is unmuted. I think Windows by default MUTES all line in & mic inputs so you don't hear feedback in your speakers or mic hum.
Also, you HAVE to use a separate player to play back the tones for wtune or whatever program you're using. The audio files I saved from the scanner were .wav, so I used Sound Recorder (Start>Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder) to both crop the recording and to play back the recording for wtune to tell me the Hz. Most computers also have Windows Media Player or Apple’s Quicktime Player, both will play back .wav files just fine.
I personally used wtune and had good luck with it, while using Sound Recorder to play back the tones.
BTW, you'll need a male-male 1/8 mini-jack cable to pipe/loop the output back into the input/mic port. It should be the same cable you used to record the tones off the scanner.
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randycsz said:
It's like the SAME Weather alert, you use it and put the scanner in that mode only on "down-time", like when you don't want to be bothered by routine traffic and alerts. i.e. at night when you go to sleep, while watching a movie at home, at work, etc.
Just like the SAME weather alert, the Fire Tone-Out can be tailored to go off only on the alerts you want and specify. Sounds like a pretty straight-forward and simple use and reason to have such a feature.....
JHaislet
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rdale said:
I agree!
You might be able to find a beat to **** Minitor I or II on ebay for around that price, but unless you personally know someone with both the software, adapter, and universal interface to program it, you're SOL.
The software, cradle, and universal interface needed for programing will set you back at least $200+. (the stuff needed to program a Minior V runs about $325, with a single-channel V running about $335 and the two-channel V running about $370).
So let's see, the cheapest Minitor V + ability to program it yourself would only set you back $660.
Thanks for confirming -- if there really is a $50 pager source I'll take one!
JHaislet
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Knock yourself out 
If it's like the interface used to program Motorola Spectra/Astro radios, it does some sort of handshake with the software; thus you have to use their stuff. Motorola's not stupid...:roll:
If it's like the interface used to program Motorola Spectra/Astro radios, it does some sort of handshake with the software; thus you have to use their stuff. Motorola's not stupid...:roll:
Well, you can't program a Minitor I or II anyway, they use crystals. But if you could get a minitor III, then you can get that programmed. If you can make the cables yourself, or find it cheaper somewhere else, the software is only $60 from mother motorola for the III/IV.
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