OKC Ch 9 story - Fake PD Cruiser

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Anyone on here have a "police look-alike" car that got towed today? There was a story on police look-alike vehicles. They were stating how "dangerous" they could be, and how people could pull unsuspecting people over. Apparently, a tow-truck driver called the news on this car. It had lights, siren, and scanners installed. They showed a pic of a car with LEDs, but I doubt that was the car he towed.

If this person is on this board - I would like to see a pic of this car!! I think people should be able to put whatever they want on their cars. Don't abuse it, and we might be able to keep doing that. I think you can have all your lights in amber now - the tow truck driver failed to mention what color the lights were.
 

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sheeesh. That is news?

I guess it could be worse .. like listening to some useless dribble worth all of about two cents.

:)


btw -- FWIW, News 9's chopper has been parked outside on the ramp @ PWA for several days now ..
 
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What was the reason given for the tow?

BTW,what's PWA? I Googled it, but I don't think it's Prairie Wrestling Alliance, the Public Works Administration, or the Pagan WebCrafters Association, to name a few of the things that came up! :lol:

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I've been listening to a security service on Leon's LTR system that is basically pickup trucks for a construction company. Because they are "emergency vehicles for construction," they are allowed (and they do have) red and blue lights. They pulled over a drunk driver for OHP the other night and OHP was cool with it (they were following and wanted to point out the driver). I'd be curious to know if this "police type cruiser" was a security car and so what if it had a siren in it. You can use the PA on a siren -- it drives 100 watts. The news media should get their legal facts straight before they start "making" stories about this stuff. Some people are allowed to have this equipment legally. It's not like there is a major problem in the area with people falsely pulling drivers over. Besides, with as many cops as we have in this city, either an impersonator would be found very quickly or he would be pulled over and checked out before he had the chance to commit the crime. That's my two cents worth.
 

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The problem arises when some of these people start following the emergency vehicles to calls and start getting in the way. I went to several fires last week and there was a red SUV with several antennas on the roof that was following me from call to call. At first I thought it was channel 9 and then I got a closer look and there were no TV station markings. I was able to get the last three numbers of the tag. "036". Looked like a personalized tag. It's been turned over to the PD.
 

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My big problem is the tow truck drivers with red and blue lights seen one using them to get through traffic just because someone would not get over and let him pass.

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PWA is the FAA identifier for Wiley Post Airport.

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KPWA


K5MAR said:
BTW,what's PWA? I Googled it, but I don't think it's Prairie Wrestling Alliance, the Public Works Administration, or the Pagan WebCrafters Association, to name a few of the things that came up! :lol:
 

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Firecop203 said:
The problem arises when some of these people start following the emergency vehicles to calls and start getting in the way. I went to several fires last week and there was a red SUV with several antennas on the roof that was following me from call to call. At first I thought it was channel 9 and then I got a closer look and there were no TV station markings. I was able to get the last three numbers of the tag. "036". Looked like a personalized tag. It's been turned over to the PD.
Several things here. First, it is not illegal to follow an emergency vehicle, as long as you don't break the law doing so. Getting "in the way" is something else entirely. As is running "code".

Not all news people drive marked vehicles. This could be a print media person, who normally drive their POVs. Or it could be a "stringer", who wouldn't have a marked vehicle. I'm a stringer up here in Stillwater for an OKC metro TV station, and don't have any markings on my truck. The local PD knows who I am. (After all, I used to work for them!)

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I agree with Firecop203, there is no good reason to follow an emergency vehicle to the scene- Besides it being dangerous, it just makes more confusion and really makes Public Saftey workers nervous when the same guy show up time and time again. Wait till it's on the 10 o'clock news, or ask on of your buddies on the Department about it later

We have a whacker up in our area that likes to chase the ambulance and fire truck, but he never follows the police around... I wonder why :D



I think people should be able to put whatever they want on their cars. Don't abuse it, and we might be able to keep doing that. I think you can have all your lights in amber now

We had a newbie firefighter buy a flashing orange beacon like the mail carriers use and try to run "code" to the station.... OHP didn't like that very much :lol:
 
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well, it's obvious that it's the USER and NOT the erquipment that is the problem. I have several antennas on my car. If I had a Crown Vic or Caprice, I'd still have the antennas.

I do neighborhood patrol from time-to-time in my neighborhood, and have blue and amber flashing lights going when I do. If they were not temporary, and in the form of a light bar, I should still be able to have them on there. Even if I have a red and blue light bar, it's only illegal to use it in certain situations. If I want to install wig-wags on my headlights, I'll do that too.

If I want to follow an emergency vehicle, as long as I'm not within a certain distance, I can do that too...even if I'm just seeing where they're going. If I want to show up at a scene, as long as I'm not hindering response or investigation, I'm within my rights, unless asked to leave by a property owner or official in charge of the scene.

I have a REAL problem with someone trying to interfere with my legal rights, whether by intimidation or otherwise.

All that said, I will say that laws are in place for good reason to keep people from following an emergency vehicle too closely or interfering with an investigation or emergency response. The laws in place, are there in their present form for a reason...to protect officials as they work, as well as my rights.

As far as the tow truck driver using his lights improperly, or the newbie firefighter using an amber light to get to the station, there will always be idiots who don't use their head to properly guide their actions. However, we also have a law in place that says you MUST move over to the right if someone comes up behind you, whether you're going the speed limit or not. This law is often misunderstood to mean that you only have to move over if you moving slower than the speed limit. This is the wrong interpretation of that law. You have to move over if you're going slower than the car behind you. I can't STAND it when I come up behind someone on the highway and they're traveling in the left lane with nobody in the right lane. MOVE OVER, idiot!!

OK, I'm off my soapbox, and back to the original post....the police look a-like. There must have been a reason it was towed. As far as I know, there are no laws on the books that address simply having a car that looks like a police car, as long as there is no actual markings that say police, and come to think of it, I don't think that's even illegal. An individual impersonating a police officer is illegal, but that has nothing to do with what car you drive, what colors you paint it, or what you put on it. Only the USE of some equipment that you can put on that car is illegal.
 

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Had a follow up on the news tonight ---


The towing company illegally towed the vehicle. Turned out, it's a demo car for a equipment installation shop. The guy is planning on taking legal action against the towing company.

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I wonder if it was one of Rocky's (WB5NJU) - he runs the 39 repeater (147.39) in Tulsa, among others. He's also a retired TPD (Sarge, I think). He also works for a company that does MDTs and digital recorders and such for police vehicles - and occasionally drives the "demo" home - looks just like a TPD cruiser (Crown Vic) except for the logo decals.
 
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