orange county red channel frequency

[scottyhetzel]

Look at it this way... When OCFA Station 7 is running a major incident like a head on traffic collision with major injuries and being able to coordinate other agencies like Riverside Co Fire for man power help and you hear a SIG-ALERT going off on 151.085 on OC Access that's a big problem.

People's lives are more important during a major emergency instead of some SIG-ALERT traffic area somewhere. Makes sense why OC Fire wants to have their own VHF channel especially when the 800mhz trunk system is so spotty up in some of those remote areas of S. Orange County.

Just an example

Thanks pepsiMa1, i completely understand now. I will add the new freq.. I hope the guys active in orco chime in when it goes active and relays the p.l..

 

[Markb]

It's 123.0

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[CommLt]

The other reason is that OC Access is owned and operated by OCC/Sheriff. OCFA has to obtain permission for its use on an incident by incident basis. The new Fire OC channel will be owned and operated by OCFA so it doesn't have to ask permission and can assign it at time of dispatch making the system more efficent.

Getting rid of the sig-alerts will be a big bonus though. At least the dog catchers are gone.

 

[scottyhetzel]

The other reason is that OC Access is owned and operated by OCC/Sheriff. OCFA has to obtain permission for its use on an incident by incident basis. The new Fire OC channel will be owned and operated by OCFA so it doesn't have to ask permission and can assign it at time of dispatch making the system more efficent.

Getting rid of the sig-alerts will be a big bonus though. At least the dog catchers are gone.

CommLT why would OCC dispatch assaign it when it is used for mutual aid. Can you give US an example how the channel will be used? I am a little confused....

 

[CommLt]

CommLT why would OCC dispatch assign it when it is used for mutual aid. Can you give US an example how the channel will be used? I am a little confused....

There is no sole purpose for that channel (OC Access) it has changed a little over the years from being an administrative channel for county-wide use that included animal control, sig-alerts, and other miscellaneous uses.

Since it is a county-wide repeated VHF channel and was already in existence it started being used for interoperability once that became a big issue post 9/11. The primary uses at that time were for other agencies using VHF which has primarily have been USFS and Cal Fire while responding with OCFA.

Although allowable, OCFA is not a licensed user for that frequency, the County of Orange is. That being the case OCFA has to ask OCC for permission to use it when the need arises.

A practical daily use is a traffic accident at the county line on Ortega highway. OCFA will dispatch the responding units on 800 MHz. At the same time USFS dispatches their units on Forest Net. Once approval is obtained responding units are advised and OCC activates a cross patch and ties 800MHz and Forest Net together using OC Access. Although this is now routine and fairly seamless their is still a delay and the other users are still using OC Access (sig-alerts as an example).

When Fire OC goes online since it will be licensed to OCFA the initial dispatch can occur on the frequency for their and the other responding agencies.

I know this sounds like no big deal, and it shouldn't be, but it causes a lot of confusion for responding units and it will be nice that if you have an onsite emergency (incident within an incident) that you can call for help and not wait for a sig-alert traffic bulletin to finish.

I hope I answered your question. If not feel free to ask clarifying questions.

Timothy McGowen

 

[scottyhetzel]

There is no sole purpose for that channel (OC Access) it has changed a little over the years from being an administrative channel for county-wide use that included animal control, sig-alerts, and other miscellaneous uses.

Since it is a county-wide repeated VHF channel and was already in existence it started being used for interoperability once that became a big issue post 9/11. The primary uses at that time were for other agencies using VHF which has primarily have been USFS and Cal Fire while responding with OCFA.

Although allowable, OCFA is not a licensed user for that frequency, the County of Orange is. That being the case OCFA has to ask OCC for permission to use it when the need arises.

I thought OCFA is Co of Orange ? How come OCFA doesnt have a user ( use) agreement on file for use, thatvdoeas not make sense...

A practical daily use is a traffic accident at the county line on Ortega highway. OCFA will dispatch the responding units on 800 MHz. At the same time USFS dispatches their units on Forest Net. Once approval is obtained responding units are advised and OCC activates a cross patch and ties 800MHz and Forest Net together using OC Access. Although this is now routine and fairly seamless their is still a delay and the other users are still using OC Access (sig-alerts as an example).

When Fire OC goes online since it will be licensed to OCFA the initial dispatch can occur on the frequency for their and the other responding agencies.

Fire OC huh ? When ? Who is this please...

I know this sounds like no big deal, and it shouldn't be, but it causes a lot of confusion for responding units and it will be nice that if you have an onsite emergency (incident within an incident) that you can call for help and not wait for a sig-alert traffic bulletin to finish.

I hope I answered your question. If not feel free to ask clarifying questions.

Timothy McGowen

Thanks for the detailed info..See my replies above , not sure how to show separation.

 

[scottyhetzel]

Guilty as charged

On another note, FIRE OC, the replacement for OC ACCESS should be up and running soon, if it isn't already. 151.0100 is the output. Probably won't see wide use until next year, though.

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Mark can you kindly submit this when you confirm the p.l. Of 123.0.. Its your find....thanks for sharing. Im going to add this to my OrCo scan list. Great info. Btw..

 

[CommLt]

Mark can you kindly submit this when you confirm the p.l. Of 123.0.. Its your find....thanks for sharing. Im going to add this to my OrCo scan list. Great info. Btw..

the tone is 123.0 and it was added to the database last June.

 

[CommLt]

Thanks for the detailed info..See my replies above , not sure how to show separation.

I thought OCFA is Co of Orange ? How come OCFA doesnt have a user ( use) agreement on file f for use, thatvdoeas not make sense...

OCFA separated from the county government in 1995 and became a separate governmental agency. The fire authority is like the transit authority. I misspoke and apologize. The licensee for this frequency apparently is the County of Orange. My guess is that OCC is the legal holder, probably having to do with part of the lease agreement for the repeater sites, etc. OCC (Orange County Communications) own most of the infrastructure, mobile and portable radios in the county and lease them to the other agencies for use.

Fire OC huh ? When ? Who is this please...

FireOC is the alpha designator on the statewide VHF fire frequency load. It, as you might assume, stands for Fire Orange County. It is for use and coordination by OCFA as they are the fire mutual aid coordinators in the county of orange. I have not heard an update about this in about six months but it should be ready for the 2014 fire season.

Timothy McGowen

 

[scottyhetzel]

Thank you Timothy.... I appreciate your detailed response. Now i need to absorb the info... : )

 

[KB6KGX]

Wow and I can remember when OC Red was 460.025 and anything hot or multi-jurisdictional got sent to it or broadcast on it.

I lived in Huntington Beach for ten years, much of it before encryption reared its ugly head. 90% of the time, I’d just have “Red” on the radio, the other 10% being HBPD. I could never listen to Fire as I didn’t have a trunking scanner back then.