OTA Alias support ADDED

[K9KLC]

Many thanks for this!

Have been trying to keep up with the Telegram thread--if that's even the correct term--but am having a devil of a time sorting through all the messages... From what I've read, you recommend that the G5 have the latest 2.05 firmware, and use the latest PPS of 4.00.48--is that correct?

Also, I'm unclear about which G5 model version will work... my G5 is pre DMR, and runs flawlessly on V1.33 firmware. Would hate to upgrade to the 2.05 f/w only to find out my G5 is too old.

Thanks,

Both my G5's are from 2019. One has 2.05 on it and the other 1.35. I too am interested in this information. Both my G5's have DMR even from that era. (67 in the model number).

correct FW and PPS

I have this PPS and 2.05 on my one pager, are you suggesting I do not install it on the one still running 1.35?

 

[Phillipsc84]

Both my G5's are from 2019. One has 2.05 on it and the other 1.35. I too am interested in this information. Both my G5's have DMR even from that era. (67 in the model number).

I have this PPS and 2.05 on my one pager, are you suggesting I do not install it on the one still running 1.35?

Correct, this was built from the 2.05 firmware so you need this one so that all the addresses and changes line up in the "right places". I would run it on the G5 with the 2.05 first and see it working then update the other one if you want to. If you run the app it has a compatibility check button.

 

[Phillipsc84]

This is a tool that you can run on the G#N and G#+ (If they are in fact different) and send me the report so I can make sure this works on those as well. I need a few reports so that I can get a broader overall "look" into the hardware. This is a read-only tool and makes no changes at all to the radio. The more I get the better.

This is only needed for those newer models, not the original hardware G4/5 "A" series.

 

[lebrunmn]

OK, I updated my G5 to the latest 2.05 firmware, and it's running fine. Installed the V1.4 of the OTA Alias mod, and I'm starting to see some initial alias activity... This is certainly handier than carting around the 45 DSD+ dongles it takes to monitor our WV SIRN area. Perhaps I'm exaggerating a bit on the number of dongles.

This is pretty slick... thanks very much for setting this up!

 

[K9KLC]

Correct, this was built from the 2.05 firmware so you need this one so that all the addresses and changes line up in the "right places". I would run it on the G5 with the 2.05 first and see it working then update the other one if you want to. If you run the app it has a compatibility check button.

Thanks I'll see about getting it installed in a couple hours when I get home.

 

[Phillipsc84]

OK, I updated my G5 to the latest 2.05 firmware, and it's running fine. Installed the V1.4 of the OTA Alias mod, and I'm starting to see some initial alias activity... This is certainly handier than carting around the 45 DSD+ dongles it takes to monitor our WV SIRN area. Perhaps I'm exaggerating a bit on the number of dongles.

This is pretty slick... thanks very much for setting this up!

Very glad to see it working for you!

 

[K9KLC]

Correct, this was built from the 2.05 firmware so you need this one so that all the addresses and changes line up in the "right places". I would run it on the G5 with the 2.05 first and see it working then update the other one if you want to. If you run the app it has a compatibility check button.

Ok one more question, (ya ok right LOL). I have a knob position that is trunking monitor for all TG's and I have some already named...do I need to make any changes to that? Will my naming convention still be there or just the OTA alias stuff or?? I can remove all the TG's if needed (the ones I had named probably 40 or so) but I'm just curious as to what's going to happen there.
Also, for the non wildcard knob positions. Will my name assignments stay there or will they be replaced.

Thanks.

Edit: as you can already see it was 2 questions, not 1.

 

[Phillipsc84]

You do not have to change anything. The contacts you programmed in to PPS for that system will take priority. If not contact exists then the OTA alias will show. Talkgroup names are unaffected.

 

[brndnstffrd]

You do not have to change anything. The contacts you programmed in to PPS for that system will take priority. If not contact exists then the OTA alias will show. Talkgroup names are unaffected.

That is exactly how I was hoping it will function. I will probably give it a try this weekend.

 

[lebrunmn]

Here's how it looks on my G5... top is the talkgroup as I entered it, second line is the Alias. Sorry for the crappy photos.

 

[K9KLC]

You do not have to change anything. The contacts you programmed in to PPS for that system will take priority. If not contact exists then the OTA alias will show. Talkgroup names are unaffected.

Thanks!!

 

[K9KLC]

Here's how it looks on my G5... top is the talkgroup as I entered it, second line is the Alias. Sorry for the crappy photos.

Is it image 19 or image 20 that is a he alias? They're side by side here.

 

[lebrunmn]

Sorry... I wasn't clear. The name next to the "To" is the talkgroup I entered into the PPS. The name next to the "Fm" is what is the alias.

So, I'm basically showing two different transmissions: One is the state police car, and the second is the dispatcher (SP Romney OP1).

 

[K9KLC]

Sorry... I wasn't clear. The name next to the "To" is the talkgroup I entered into the PPS. The name next to the "Fm" is what is the alias.

So, I'm basically showing two different transmissions: One is the state police car, and the second is the dispatcher (SP Romney OP1).

Okay thanks.

 

[K9KLC]

EDIT: Ok I turned the pager off and on and it's now frozen at the boot up screen and has been for 15 minutes, I'm trying the repair/install now to see what happens.....

EDIT 2: Ok I re-flashed the 2.05 firmware from Unication and all seems normal again I may try this again later today I had some kind of error show up but it didn't dawn on me to screen shot it when I saw it when I tried to reinstall it from the software here. I'll report back more possibly later today.

I installed the software this morning and it is working however, it appears the majority of cars and only about 50% of the things here have the Talker alias available on them so a large majority of the time I am only still seeing numbers. No fault of the software I don't think. Honestly, a lot of my groups here I don't even get a number only "P25T" on that line.

The install took about 5 minutes and as far as I can tell no other changes have taken place it seems to be working as before which is well, here for my simulcast system.

I checked a neighboring system I can receive here from another county and it was again mostly numbers however a few alias's did pop up. It's pretty early here so as more traffic happens, we'll see what's what. All in all it went smooth and in the first 30 minutes after the install all seems normal.

 

[K9KLC]

Continuing from above... it was too late to edit it again. When I started the Unication program to re-flash, I got some kind of message pertaining to "something encryption running", and I've not ever seen that and I have never messed with anything encryption related. I have re-flashed the firmware from Unication and all seems ok after several power cycles but I thought I still saw an alias pop up in the from line I'll have to watch it, again I wasn't getting a lot of them here and it's pretty early yet for anyone to be too active. (which is a good thing). All seems back to normal now, I'll report back on the Alias situation.

EDIT: Yep even after re-installing 2.05 from Unication, still getting an occasional alias which is again probably normal for this area. I guess my question is is that there "forever" now? To that end what if another firmware update comes out should that be attempted or??? All questions cause inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Phillipsc84]

Continuing from above... it was too late to edit it again. When I started the Unication program to re-flash, I got some kind of message pertaining to "something encryption running", and I've not ever seen that and I have never messed with anything encryption related. I have re-flashed the firmware from Unication and all seems ok after several power cycles but I thought I still saw an alias pop up in the from line I'll have to watch it, again I wasn't getting a lot of them here and it's pretty early yet for anyone to be too active. (which is a good thing). All seems back to normal now, I'll report back on the Alias situation.

EDIT: Yep even after re-installing 2.05 from Unication, still getting an occasional alias which is again probably normal for this area. I guess my question is is that there "forever" now? To that end what if another firmware update comes out should that be attempted or??? All questions cause inquiring minds want to know.

As for newer firmware it will most certainly overwrite this firmware changes and all. A new official firmware would require a new write of the custom mod to be usable. You can use the "Restore Factory 2.05" option in the mod as well to remove this mod.

 

[K9KLC]

You can use the "Restore Factory 2.05" option in the mod as well to remove this mod.

Ok thanks. well for now I'm getting so few alias's it really doesn't matter. I tried to your "Restore Factory 2.05" option but frankly the software just didn't respond after I had attempted the "install/repair" option. I didn't close it and restart it however which may have fixed that. I think for now I'm just going to let it ride and see, about 1 in 100 times I do get a alias and honestly I just wish in my area had made it to where that would work. I understand this is not a fault of your software.

Personally, thank you for taking the time to do this, be so responsive here in the forums and allowing us the chance to test what I think is a brilliant piece of software. I'm sure in some areas they will get a lot more than I am here. I do on occasion travel to MO so I'll check it there on the Moswin system also.

Again thank you, I appreciate all your help and the chance to use this. As I am typing one of my "1 in 100" just popped up, was great to see that.

 

[K9KLC]

Just to see, I opened OPEN MHz I see there, there are alias's appearing....did I not do something when I first installed this? Maybe I'm confused about the "FM" line that's where I should be seeing these/. Open MHz honestly has alias's for almost all of them, I'm not sure why I'm not seeing them??

did I need to change something in the PPS or does open MHz do things differently?

 

[K9KLC]

Ok just to keep everyone in the loop, @Phillipsc84 and I have had discussion off forum here and I re-loaded his software, cycled the pager and all is well. I'm still seeing more numbers than alias's but, all seems well with the pager. Depending on where you live this could be a wonderful thing to honestly have especially if you do any kind of wild card scanning where the "FM" line might give a clue which TG you're actually receiving by name rather than a number.