Phoenix Simulcast System J

[aensr]

It appears they are in the process of activating it. Control Channel was on this morning on 769.36875 then it was switched to 769.11875 where it is now. No units have been heard yet. This site number is 503

Alan

 

[p19997]

This is likely not SImulcast J. This is a new site in Buckeye, with the following frequencies:


769.11875
769.36875
769.61875
769.86875
770.11875
770.36875
772.78125

 

[aensr]

Today, Friday, I am hearing a couple of talk groups on the New Buckeye system or as it has been referred to as System J. The Estrella IR has apparently be changed to this new system as there old control channels are no longer heard. From where I live in Surprise, I think the only new site I can hear is The old Estrella IR.

Alan

 

[aensr]

Buckeye PD RWC TG 4201 is now using the new system

Alan

 

[KB7MIB]

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Has anyone confirmed the 2 main and 2 alternate CC's yet?

 

[aensr]

It is 769.86875 right now.
Yesterday the CC It was on 769.36875
The day before the CC was on 769.11875.

That looks like 3 of the 4.

Alan

 

[p19997]

I stand corrected. It is Simulcast J. The following is a quote from the horse's mouth:

RWC Build-out

Buckeye/Goodyear

Four new sites are being added to the RWC network forming a Simulcast J sub-system in the
southwest valley. These new sites will carry the primary communications traffic for Buckeye
and Goodyear, Police, Fire and Municipal users.

I could have sworn that I also saw somewhere that Simulcast J would be a test bed for Phase II P25 TDMA narrow band operation. However, I just found something on the web that implies we're not going there any time soon: ECFS Filing: Regional Wireless Cooperative (96-86) - 02/21/2012 .

 

[AZScanner]

Wow, that's good news.I feel a bit better about spending $400 or so on a new scanner knowing that it'll be good for at least 5 years on this system if not more.

OK, Uniden, GRE, etc. You've got at least 5 years to develop a new TDMA scanner....

-AZ

 

[KB7MIB]

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The current GRE PSR-800 and the forthcoming GRE PSR-900 do Phase II TDMA, IIRC.
Any idea on the TG's for Goodyear PD, and/or when they begin simulcasting their current conventional 800MHz channels with their RWC TG's, and/or fully make the switch?

 

[KB7MIB]

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Lousy decode percentage on 769.86875 from my home in Peoria with my GRE PSR-500 and the RS 800 MHz duckie. 70% was the best I saw, and that's when I can get a decodeable signal to start with.

 

[KB7MIB]

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I wonder if/when Tolleson is going to switch to the RWC, and what their TG's may be?
I'm also wondering why the Sun City Sheriff's Posse is still conventional 800MHz and not on the county's system on TG's near the Sun City West Sheriff's Posse?

 

[aensr]

I drove around Buckeye and Goodyear today and confirmed that all four sites for the new system are up but only Buckeye PD is patched through. No Fire yet.

The old Estrella IR is gone and now one of the sites
There is one out in Rainbow Valley and one at Lower Buckeye and 85. There is also one on Sun Valley out by the Sun City Festival Subdivision.

Alan

 

[Arizona_Scanner]

And yet another system that could be monitored throughout much of the valley goes to the dreaded simulcast where you will need to be within a 1/4 mile of a site to hear it properly....

What gets me about it the most is that Buckeye had the White Tanks site and the Estrella IR which gave awesome coverage, but yet they felt they had to buy into this new system, for what? Goodyear PD could be heard valleywide (I was always amazed by how well this system got out). It seems a lot of money gets spent needlessly to be on the RWC. Other than interop, why is there such a push to get on this system?

Times they are changing for scanner enthusiasts...

 

[rpgaun]

Yesterday afternoon when driving home from work I copied a Sky Harbor talk group (1199) on Simulcast J. I have it ID'd as "Main Dispatch" and they were announcing a medical call in a terminal a minute or so after it was dispatched by PFD.

 

[KB7MIB]

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Has anyone ID'd the 4th CC yet? Simulcast J is still sitting at 3, when all the rest have 4.